The 700 Club: December 1, 2009

UnderWing Transcripts PO Box 16282 Clearwater, Florida 33766 540 455-2333 / UnderWing@underwingtranscripts.com ________________________________________ The 700 Club Daily Broadcast Tuesday, December 1, 2009 PAT ROBERTSON: Well, welcome to The 700 Club. It seems that the mess in Dubai was more of a tempest in a teapot. Gold briefly crossed 1,200 dollars an ounce. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Will that tempest come back to roost? PAT ROBERTSON: Not from Dubai. It’s too small. It’s 60 billion dollars, and in today’s world, that’s a teapot. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Yes. That’s the truth, isn’t it? Sadly. PAT ROBERTSON: It’s not much going on. But President Obama is now going to start another tempest over in Afghanistan, 30,000 troops. We’ll have about 100,000 in that wretched war. So he has to sell the plan to the American public. TERRY MEEUWSEN: That’s right. And he’s already facing opposition, and that’s from his fellow Democrats. John Jessup has the story. AFGHANISTAN JOHN JESSUP: The marching orders went out from the Oval Office to the Pentagon on Sunday, and the first of some 30,000 more troops are expected to deploy within two to three weeks of tonight’s presidential address. It's part of Mr. Obama's war plan to improve the situation in Afghanistan by focusing more on fighting terrorists and less on nation building, not to mention to pave the way for an eventual exit strategy. Robert Gibbs (White House Press Secretary): The President will talk about the fact that this is not an open-ended commitment. JOHN JESSUP: President Obama started the day with an hour-long video conference call with the Afghan President Hamid Karzai to discuss the new strategy and apply pressure on his government to make good on their end of the deal. Patrick Cronin (Center for a New American Society): He's putting Karzai on the line. He knows that President Karzai is going to make or break this campaign. JOHN JESSUP: The latest infusion of American forces will raise the total number of US troops to around 100,000. The plan also relies on additional troops from NATO. Robert Gibbs: Without partners that are willing to do stuff in both Afghanistan and Pakistan, no number of American troops can solve all of those problems. JOHN JESSUP: This is the second military buildup President Obama has ordered this year, a decision supported by most Republicans, and one that exposes a rift within his own party. Liberal Democrats hate the idea of a surge of any kind, and two top Democratic lawmakers are throwing around the idea of a war tax to pay for President Obama’s plan on Afghanistan. John Jessup, CBN News, the White House. PAT ROBERTSON: Thanks, John. I am opposed to this buildup in Afghanistan. Afghanistan is a narco state. It is the largest producer of heroin in the world. They have acres and acres of poppy fields that we’ve done nothing to eradicate. And the thing is controlled by a series of warlords. There is no central government. What’s in Kabul is Kabul, but it has no authority really over the rest of the country. TERRY MEEUWSEN: So what do you think we should do? Just leave? PAT ROBERTSON: I think we ought to leave. We ought to tell those people, “You get your army up. We’ll help you. We’ll put a few forces in to help train your army. And beyond that, we’re out. It’s your war. You do what you want to with it.” I just think it will be another quagmire. It will be another Iraq, except it will be never ending. And those fierce tribes, they just like to kill each other. They’ve been doing it for years. TERRY MEEUWSEN: But think about other places in the world that we’ve been where we’ve stayed for quite awhile to keep stability. PAT ROBERTSON: Yes, and a lot of good it’s done us. But there are certain areas that are amenable to the Democratic processes. And I don’t think Afghanistan is one of them. They have a corrupt government. They have corrupt elections. The whole thing is not worthy of our support. And it’s going to be a very difficult thing, although I know I may be way out in terms of what my feeling is, but risk 100,000 American lives and then you have to escalate, because that’s not going to be enough. So you put in another 30,000, then another 30,000. Before long, you’re fighting Vietnam all over again. That’s my feeling. But anyhow, everybody else can differ. I’m sure you do, but nevertheless, I just don’t think that the American people are ready for another Iraq. Well, Lee Webb has the rest of our top stories from the CBN Newsroom. Lee. HEALTH DEBATE BEGINS LEE WEBB: Pat, debate over President Obama’s healthcare plan has started in the Senate. Democrats and Republicans seem to be digging in for a partisan fight. The healthcare proposal would cover about ten percent of the population for ten years and cost nearly a trillion dollars. Senator John McCain calls the bill a monstrosity that employs, quote, “Bernie Madoff and Enron accounting.” Several senators, including McCain, are proposing amendments to the bill. Voting on them is expected to begin today. NEW GOLD RECORD LEE WEBB: The price of gold has hit another milestone. Gold futures briefly crossed 1,200 dollars in international trading today. As usual, the dollar fell at the same time gold got stronger. Analysts expect both trends to continue in the months ahead, but some investors expect a correction in gold before it heads for still higher prices. Do you agree with that, Pat? PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I more or less do. I have been saying gold was going to go up. I thought my target was 1,800 dollars an ounce. And it may go higher than that. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, that projection is saying even if it stabilizes for a while, it’s still going to go up. PAT ROBERTSON: Terry, the big thing is, we, the United States of America, are destroying our currency. We are spending recklessly. We do not have fiscal discipline in Washington. Those people that are up there have no conception of what money is. TERRY MEEUWSEN: But how is that possible? Supposedly, when you’re President, you have access to the people who are the best experts in the country. Why don’t they know that? PAT ROBERTSON: Well, the congressman are not the best experts in the country, and they’re controlling the spending. And the two of them together, you’ve got a liberal President and you’ve got a Democratic Congress, and they want every kind of social program they’ve dreamed of for the last 40 years. And if it costs trillions of dollars, so be it. And it’s bankrupting America. But I think this started with George Bush. It wasn’t just Obama. But the Republicans, one of the reason the Republicans lost control of the Congress was because they were viewed as profligate spenders instead of fiscal conservatives. That’s why they lost. And it’s a mess. But, ladies and gentlemen, I’ve been warning you that this is going to happen. So invest your portfolio wisely, because you can’t just sock your money away in a savings account and think you’re going to have anything in 10 or 15 years. It will be down to a half or a third of what it is now in value. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Right. Be cautious. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, cautious, and you’ve got to be more bold and find out some currency that’s going to hold its value, or something like commodities. But gold is taking off, and it’s taken off on the back of the weak dollar. Lee. CLIMATE CHANGE DEBATE LEE WEBB: Pat, White House officials says they believe global warming is real. The Hill newspaper says the administration is keeping that stand despite the discovery of more than 1,000 private e-mails and documents from scientists that refute global warming. Those documents were discovered by a blogger who hacked into the private system of the Climate Research Unit. That’s one of the largest data houses for research on climate change. In some of the e-mails, scientists discussed how to manipulate the evidence to make it support global warming and hide evidence it doesn’t. Pat. PAT ROBERTSON: That’s one of the shocking things, and the other shocking thing is that the so-called “main street media,” the New York Times, et al, are amazingly quiet on this particular subject. This is a massive cover up by major scientists. These aren’t a group of . . . . TERRY MEEUWSEN: But to what end? Why? PAT ROBERTSON: To get money. They have research projects which are funded by vast amounts of public money. And if they can keep the game going, they’ll get lots and lots of money. So they don’t want to have somebody say, “Hey, it isn’t hotter anymore. It’s actually getting cooler.” But they have this hockey stick concept that the climate is going up all the time. The truth is, it has actually dipped a little bit, or it leveled to dipped. And leveled to dipped doesn’t get billions of dollars of public money. So they can’t have it happen. But it is an absolute horrible fraud. It was I think the University of East Anglia in England that had the data, and it was hacked into. TERRY MEEUWSEN: More than 1,000 e-mails that you choose to simply not report on and ignore? PAT ROBERTSON: Saying how you keep these other scientists out, how you keep them from being, quote, “peer reviewed,” how you cast dispersion on their science and how you cover up data that disagrees with you. Awful. Lee. CHARITY LEE WEBB: Pat, Operation Blessing has been named one of the top charities in America by Forbes magazine. It ranks Operation Blessing number eight on the most efficient charities list and 24th for gross revenue. As Paul Strand reports, the charity is doing its best to help people hurt by this economy. PAUL STRAND: It’s a sign of the tough times, a line blocks long of Californians waiting to get free turkey and trimmings for the Thanksgiving holiday. Desperate people even waited through the night. Linda Armstrong (Riverside, CA): I told my sister that it was going be like this, because a lot of people are out of work right now. PAUL STRAND: Repeat such scenes all over America, and you can see why charities and ministries are feeling such a crush. And of all this while giving to them is down. As CEO of Operation Blessing, Bill Horan has his finger on the pulse of one of the world’s largest charities. Bill Horan (Operation Blessing CEO): The landscape is pretty rough out there. We, like all charities, are struggling against sort of a perfect storm where the need is greater than it's ever been in modern times, especially in America with this economic meltdown that we've experienced. Ronald Potts (Los Angeles): There’s no work. There's no jobs. There are people who are getting laid off, people losing their houses. PAUL STRAND: Many charities are seeing the need for food up roughly 70 percent over the last couple of years. And as these charities try to meet the need by dishing more out, there's often less coming in. Bill Horan: A lot of our donors are having a rough time just making a living and keeping their own heads above water. PAUL STRAND: Horan says beware what you’re giving to and check them out first, maybe online. GRAPHIC: MINISTRYWATCH.COM Bill Horan: Ministry.com, for example. They track all the faith-based ministries. I think maybe 450 of them they keep track of. And I'm happy to say that the last time I looked, Operation Blessing was ranked either the second or third most fiscally efficient charity in America. PAUL STRAND: In Forbes magazine, looking at the top 200 charities, awarded Operation Blessing a 100 percent efficiency rating. Horan says he does that by leveraging every donor dollar. For instance, the charity has to spend money for its Hunger Strike Force, a fleet of trucks and drivers, but they get corporate donors to fill those trucks with food and supplies. Bill Horan: For every dollar that we spend on that Hunger Strike Force, we're delivering 12 or 14 dollars worth of food and relief supplies to poor people all over America. PAUL STRAND: It’s expensive work. Operation Blessing alone delivers 64 truckloads of food every week, digs 120 water wells a month, and last year rushed to 43 disasters in 19 countries. Bottom line: Be careful where you give, but do please give. The need is bigger than ever. Paul Strand, CBN News. LEE WEBB: Pat, I know you’re grateful to the good Lord for the work that He has done through this ministry that you founded so many years ago. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, that’s right. I was sitting one morning reading the Bible, and I was reading in Isaiah 58. And it said, “Is this not the fast that I have chosen, that you would deal your bread to the hungry, if you see the naked you’d clothe him, see the homeless, you’d take him into the house?” And then it began to say, “Here are the things that God will do. Here are the blessings.” And out of that came Operation Blessing. And it has grown in these few years, let’s see, ’78, ’88, ’98, almost 30 years, it has grown to enormous proportions, because the need is huge. And I’m just very delighted. Bill Horan is doing a superb job as president of that organization. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, and very often Operation Blessing is the first organization on the scene in international as well as national disasters. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, all over the world, because we have the CBN WorldReach, which works in conjunction with Operation Blessing overseas. And so, folks, it’s something. And this holiday season, there are a lot of hurting people, and we’re going to get as many good things to them as we can with Operation Blessing. So this is a good time to write a check. It will make you feel a lot better. Terry. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, up next, we’re going to take you to the Silicon Valley of the Middle East and show you why one tiny country is a technological giant. GRAPHIC: TECHNOLOGICAL GIANT * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * GRAPHIC: MOTORCYCLE ACCIDENT LEE WEBB: Coming up, a car slams into a biker . . . . Man: And 50 or 60 people standing around watching, and they were all saying, “Oh, my God. Oh, my God.” LEE WEBB: . . . . and his pregnant wife. Man: It was almost like she was lifted off of the back of the bike. The bike went one way, the car went the other way. And she was dropped. 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FOCUS SET-UP PKG CHRIS MITCHELL: Israel is a nation of slightly more than seven million people, yet per capita it leads the world in technology start up companies. One reason for Israel's leading role is its military and the kind of innovative leaders it produces. Yoram Ettinger (Israeli Economic Analyst): Veterans of the Israeli military, once they retire, they join the commercial market and they apply the different cutting edge technologies in the medical market, telecommunications, cellular market, et cetera. CHRIS MITCHELL: As a result, Israel is credited with developing technologies like the cell phone, voice technology, and even the Intel Pentium chip. Israel also puts a premium on research and development. Israel has more people per capita in research and development than any other country. For example, in Israel, 140 people per 10,000 are in research and development. The US is number two in the world, with 85 people per 10,000. Yoram Ettinger: It just shows you how robust the human factor is here in Israel, and the outcome has been that Israel has produced per capita more cutting edge technologies than any other country in the world. CHRIS MITCHELL: A new book called Start-Up Nation: The Story of Israel’s Economic Miracle examines how tiny Israel is a technological giant in today's global economy. It argues Israel is not just a nation, but a state of mind, and its old fashioned chutzpa goes a long way towards economic prosperity. It also shows how other nations and individuals can learn from Israel's example. Chris Mitchell, CBN News, Jerusalem. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * FOCUS GUEST: DAN SENOR PAT ROBERTSON: Thanks, Chris. Well, author Dan Senor joins us now. Dan has written a book called Start-Up Nation: The Story of Israel’s Economic Miracle. Dan, good to have you with us. Dan Senor: Good to be with you, Pat. PAT ROBERTSON: Thank you. Dan Senor: Always a pleasure. PAT ROBERTSON: What’s the deal? Why is Israel doing this? They’re beating everybody. Dan Senor: Well, it’s amazing. As we talk about the book, it’s a state of mind. It’s a sense of survival. It’s a sense of commitment. It’s a sense of business success as a form of patriotism. We tell in the book these fantastic stories of amazing inventors and entrepreneurs. One guy, he started a company, and his son now runs it. And it’s called Iscar. It’s one of the largest tool manufacturing companies in the world. Warren Buffett bought the company in 2006. PAT ROBERTSON: And loves it. Dan Senor: When Katyusha rockets from Hezbollah were landing right near the factories during the Lebanon war, Warren Buffet could have gotten out of the deal. The CEO of the company called Warren Buffet and said, “Warren, for our customers around the world and for you, there will be no war, meaning we don’t care what the enemy throws at us, we will not be late on one shipment.” It’s this sense of business success as a form of patriotism, of a sense of survival and tenacity that you don’t see many places in the world. We argue in the book there is a lot that the US can learn from Israel, and we actually talk about how. PAT ROBERTSON: Some of those early pioneers came in from eastern Europe and they were socialist. And socialist is the all embracing government. Now, there is free enterprise on steroids. What’s the deal? Dan Senor: Well, a couple of things. One, I think the government, we look at some of the innovative the government did to liberate the economy and to really stimulate the venture capital industry. And there are some things we argue the US should be doing that we can learn from Israel. Secondly, you can’t underestimate the role of the military. Every single Israeli serves the military. Everybody knows that. What most people don’t realize, which we talk about in the book, is the Israeli business elites, the corporate leadership, knows how to take the battlefield experience of Israel’s young men and women and actually understand how valuable that leadership, management, improvisational training is for the battlefield and how it is applicable to the business world. In the United States, we tell stories in the book, we interviewed US officers who tell stories about junior officers returning from Iraq and Afghanistan. And they’ll be in a job interview in the United States in Silicon Valley, and they’ll describe this incredible experience they’ve had being a security czar, a reconstruction czar, the tribal negotiator, the amazing our men and women are doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. At the end of the interview, the corporate recruiter will say, “Well, that’s all very interesting, but have you ever had a real job?” And this story goes on and on and on. It’s the opposite in Israel where CEOs and investors are completely literate about military experience. And one of the things we talk about in the book is how we can learn from Israel’s experience in integrating this incredible talent returning from our military into the business world. PAT ROBERTSON: How do they in the military learn things like computer chips? How do you learn a Pentium chip in the military? Dan Senor: The IDF has some very elite technology units that focus on training people in this incredible technology. But that’s only a small part of it. What is most valuable to military experience is it takes every single young Israeli, 18 to 21. They do their military service, then they go to university. So at a very young age, they get leadership experience. And that leadership experience, we argue, is what makes the start-up scene there tick, because it is such valuable experience in the business world. They go to university at a much more mature age, 21, 22, when they’ve had to deal with real life and death experience. They know what it means to have lives on the line. PAT ROBERTSON: Israel is surrounded by people who hate them. I was over there during that war when Hezbollah was throwing those Katyusha rockets into the country. How does Israel survive in that situation, because those Arabs are way behind, but they hate Israel? Apparently, there is a jealousy out there. Dan Senor: Well, absolutely. Look, one of the things we argue in the book, we try to answer the question if Israel has managed to pull this off, why hasn’t the Arab Muslim world managed to pull it off? Well, there are a few problems. One, women aren’t allowed to participate in the economy in the Arab Muslim world. That’s a big problem. When 50 percent of your population is shut out, is basically persecuted, that’s a real detriment to your economy. Two, there is no tolerance for asking basic questions in these societies. You can’t challenge authorities. You can’t challenge government economic data. You can’t fire a government. If you don’t have a culture where people can ask questions of authorities and elites, you will not a have a culture of exploration and experimentation. What makes the Israeli economy so unique, we argue, is its complete tolerance for asking questions, challenging. You’ve been there. You’ve see what we call “the chutzpah” and the constant debating and probing. And you have to have that if you’re going to try new ideas. The other point is, in these societies, you don’t have this tolerance for failure. In free markets, you have to tolerate failure. People, you want your young people waking up every day trying new ideas. In Israel, they try to radically turn industries upside down, coming up with new ideas in medical device, and biotech, and clean energy, and all these different areas. You want them waking up every day trying new ideas, knowing that they could fail. And if they fail, they can take that experience and try again if they can use it constructively. In the Arab Muslim world, you file for bankruptcy, if you fail, you get sent to jail. You’re shut out of the economy forever. You’re never going to have a society of entrepreneurship and free markets if there is no tolerance for risk taking and failure. PAT ROBERTSON: What do you think is the future of Israel? Dan Senor: I’m very bullish, as we say in the New York business world, on Israel’s future. We argue in the book, they were barely touched by this economic meltdown globally. We explain why Israel was the first out of meltdown and they were barely touched by it. So they are incredibly resilient against immense odds, surrounded by enemies, in a state of war since its founding, no access to natural resources, the one slab of land in the Middle East with no oil, and shut out as you just said from its region. What worries me, what I stay up at night thinking about is the existential threat, the security threat to Israel. We have a chapter in the book called “The Threats to the Economic Miracle: What Could Go Wrong?” And one of them is if Iran develops a nuclear weapon. And for all the obvious reasons, in terms of the security threats it would pose to Israel, but secondly, with some Israelis, we ask the question, some Israelis say, “Enough is enough. I cannot live under the risk of a nuclear cloud.” And will the talent leave? What is amazing is no matter what threats have been thrust at the Israelis, they’ve never left. They’ve stuck it out. They’ve kept building and building. And we show how they have done it through every single war. You were there during the Lebanon war and those companies kept functioning: Google, Microsoft, Intel, Cisco. They all have huge facilities there. We interview the leaders of the companies that say, “Israel is the only country in the world where they put their critical research and development, where they have their critical—the companies live and die based on the work being done in Israel,” which is an amazing thing, because they’re not worried about the existential threats. They’re willing to take that risk. And I think the Israelis will, too. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, that’s great. Well, Dan, this is a tremendous book. Start-Up Nation. Ladies and gentlemen, you ought to get this. And it will thrill you to hear what Israel is doing, this tiny nation, how we think of them as God’s chosen people and that entrepreneurship is almost divine. So thank you. Dan Senor: And there’s a lot we can learn from it. There are a lot of lessons in the book for the US. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, it’s yours, ladies and gentlemen, where books are sold all across this country. Dan, thank you so much for being here. Dan Senor: Thank you very much, Pat. Great to be here. PAT ROBERTSON: Dan Senor. Terry, let’s keep going. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, coming up, an abused child who fought back. Man: One night, I jumped on his back and started beating him on the back, saying, “Leave my mommy alone or I’m going to kill you.” TERRY MEEUWSEN: But that wasn’t the last person he’d fight. Find out why, when we return. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 2: LOVE FINDS A HOME Announcer: From bestselling author Janette Oke . . . . . Actor: Can you see it? Actress: A cabin, with curtains in the windows. Announcer: . . . . and acclaimed producer-director Michael Landon, Jr. . . . . Actor: Don’t leave. Stay with me. Announcer: . . . . comes the inspiring and heartwarming movie series that will captivate the entire family. 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She had to get away from him when one night I jumped on his back and started beating him on the back saying, “Leave my mommy alone, or I’m going to kill you.” ANDREW KNOX: By the time Terry was six, his parents were divorced, and he moved with his mother to Detroit. There she married a mafia hit man who had quite an influence on Terry’s life. Terry Strouss: He was a very violent man. He not only beat my mother daily, but he abused her sexually in front of me every day. ANDREW KNOX: A year later, Terry’s father brought him back to Pennsylvania to live with his grandparents. He spent the next decade growing up in a stable home where he was involved in church. Over the years, Terry remained close with both of his parents, but he struggled to find peace. Terry Strouss: When I went to live with my grandparents, I had an anger in me that was uncontrollable. When something wasn’t working right, I would very calmly go get a hammer and beat it flat and destroy things. ANDREW KNOX: But Terry understood the anger wasn’t right and kept going to church. Terry Strouss: And this boy asked me point blank, he said, “Have you ever asked Jesus into your heart?” And I said no. And he explained the significance of that. And so I asked Jesus into my heart at age 12. ANDREW KNOX: Terry struggled to forgive his stepfather for the abuse. He graduated high school and seemed to adjust well into adult life. He even got a job at a small television station. Terry met and married a woman he worked with, but soon, the stresses of life began to test the young couple. Terry Strouss: My ex-wife and I started having problems in our marriage. I bought a motorcycle. And it was really out of rebellion, because I knew she wouldn’t like it. Our marriage was basically falling apart. ANDREW KNOX: It wasn’t long before Terry’s wife moved out. Terry Strouss: At that point, I decided that I could live my life without God. I really felt disappointed by a lot of people in my life, and God became one of those disappointments. ANDREW KNOX: Terry looked to his motorcycle buddies to find a sense of community. Terry Strouss: It was a lifestyle that I shouldn’t have ever gotten into. They weren’t bad people. They just liked to party. They just liked to have a good time. ANDREW KNOX: Then Terry got a call from an old friend. Her marriage was also falling apart, and Terry invited her to move in with him. Soon, she was pregnant. Terry Strouss: We got married in 1989, and at that point, she began to feel a need for God, because she was looking at this baby that she didn’t know how to raise. But I had no interest. I had no interest at all. ANDREW KNOX: But when Terry’s wife was six months pregnant with the couple’s second child, they were involved in a motorcycle accident. Terry Strouss: It was almost like she was lifted off of the back of the bike. The bike went one way, the car went the other way. And she was just dropped. And 50 or 60 people standing around watching, and they were all saying, “Oh, my God. Oh, my God.” And one man came over next to me, and he knelt down on the ground beside me and my wife, and he said, “Oh, Father, help them.” I knew that he was a Christian. And he said, “What can I do for you?” And just as sarcastic as I could be I said, “Well, I guess you’d better pray.” And he did, surprisingly, right there, right then. I meant for him to go home and pray. And he prayed right there. ANDREW KNOX: They were released from the hospital the next morning. Although Terry was thankful his wife and unborn child were all right, he was far from being at peace with God. Terry Strouss: “God, you let me down.” And one night, just as clear as a voice speaking in the room, I heard Him say, “What are you doing for Me?” ANDREW KNOX: Terry knew it was time to stop running from God. Terry Strouss: I had to take a second look at what I walked away from, and so I went back to church one Sunday morning with my wife. I just felt like God was calling me back. ANDREW KNOX: In 1996 he attended a Promise Keepers’ Rally. Terry Strouss: The man on the platform said, “As we forgive those that have hurt us, it’s not for those that have hurt us; it’s for us.” That unforgiveness, and bitterness, and hatred, and all those things that I had held onto for so many years, it ties us to the event that caused the scar and the emotional wounding to begin with. I said, “Okay, God. I’ll try you at this.” And I said, “I choose to forgive that man. And I knew that I had forgiven that man, when I could say, “Lord, if he was still alive, if he was still here, I would tell him about you, and I would want him to be in heaven with me through eternity.” ANDREW KNOX: It’s been more than a decade since Terry found a peace that changed his life. Terry Strouss: Jesus said, “I’ve come that you might have life and have it more abundantly.” And that abundant life comes out of a relationship with Him. It comes out of being filled with the Holy Spirit. It comes out of the healing of emotional hurts and traumas in the past that only He can bring. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT MINISTERS PAT ROBERTSON: Jesus made it very clear. He gave us a description of how we can have miracles. He told us what to do and how we could speak to storms, speak to the sea, speak to circumstances, and have our prayers answered. He told us clearly how to do it. And then He closed by saying, “But when you stand praying, if you have ought against any, forgive, that your heavenly Father might forgive you.” And unless you’re in a state of forgiveness with God, you’re not going to have miracles in answer to your prayers. But God has said through His Word, Jesus Christ said it, “When you stand praying, if you have ought against any, forgive them.” Ought, anything, anything against anybody. Terry sure had it. He had reason to hate these guys, these stepfathers. He had absolute reason, that first one particularly. What a horrible person. What a horrible person to abuse his mother and to do what they did. He had every reason to have murder in his heart. Every reason! But I tell you, that doesn’t cut it. You may have a reason to hate somebody. You may have a reason to be angry. You may have a reason to carry secret resentment. It doesn’t matter. You’re sinning, and you will not have answers to prayer. So Terry got to the point where he was saying, “God, I forgive them, and I’d like to have them spend eternity in Heaven with me.” Now, when you get to that point, you’ll see miracles. He saw miracles, and you will see miracles. But I want to ask you to pray right now, and I want you to think about somebody who had hurt you and somebody that you are resentful against. It could be a husband or wife. It could be a mother-in-law. It could be a stepmother, stepfather. It could be somebody who’s a neighbor. People have hurt a lot of people. And especially when you’re a child, you get hurt and you carry those hurts, and you don’t even know what they are. Will you ask God? If you have that hurt, I want you to pray with me right now. Pray the prayer that I’m going to pray. Pray it after me, and watch what God will do in your life. “Lord, God.” That’s right, pray with me. “Lord God, you know the hurts that I have suffered. You know from the time I was young some of the things that have happened. And you know the resentment and bitterness that’s built up in my heart. But right now, Lord, I bring all of that to you. And at this moment, I ask you to forgive me, even as I forgive those who have hurt me. And, Lord, I pray for them, not only that I might forgive them, but that they might be blessed in Heaven with me. For, Lord, I belong to you, and I thank you that you’ve heard my prayer.” Now, I want to pray for you. Father, for those who prayed that prayer, I ask you to give them a sense of cleansing and release, in the name of Jesus, from this moment on. Amen and amen. GRAPHIC: 1-800-759-0900 CBN.COM If you prayed that prayer with me and you want some further prayer, you can call 1-800-759-0700. Somebody here loves here. And just call and say, “I prayed with Pat. I’m free. I am free.” Declare it. It’ll bless you. Well, we’ll be back with more of The 700 Club right after this. Stay tuned. ANNOUNCER: Still ahead . . . . GRAPHIC: NO-STRESS ENTERTAINING . . . . the secret to no-stress entertaining. 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This is a limited time offer. Call now: 1-800-225-2560. That’s 1-800-225-2560. Or visit wordofpromisebible.com. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * MINARET CONTROVERSY JOHN JESSUP: Welcome to Washington for this CBN News Break. The Swiss ban on the iconic towers on mosques called “minarets” may soon be struck down by the country’s supreme court or the by the European Court of Human Rights. Swiss voters recently approved the ban on new minarets by a wide margin. The ban does not apply to the country’s existing four minarets or prohibit Muslims from free expression of their religion. But criticism from Islamic countries, the United Nations and the European Union is putting pressure on the Swiss to find a way to overturn the vote. PREACHING PRISONER JOHN JESSUP: A New Jersey inmate will now be allowed to preach during worship services in the New Jersey state prison. In 2007, convicted murderer Howard Thompson, who’s also an ordained minister, was ordered to stop preaching. The American Civil Liberties Union filed a lawsuit saying Thompson’s religious rights were violated. Thompson now can preach sermons under the supervision of a chaplain. Well, you can always get the latest from CBN News by going to our website at CBN.com. Pat and Terry will be back with more of The 700 Club right after this. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT: REGENT UNIVERSITY PAT ROBERTSON: You and I are ordinary people, ordinary people who are capable of affecting the world in extraordinary ways. Come to Regent University. When you earn your degree from Regent, you become a vital part of the mission we all share: Christian leadership to change the world. For a free welcome kit, visit lead.regent.edu, or call 866-REGENT-U. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TERRY MEEUWSEN: Whether you’re hosting Christmas dinner or just taking a dish to someone else’s party, we’re about to give you a little help. Reporter Michelle Wilson paid a visit to lifestyle expert Moll Anderson for some no-stress recipes that will impress your guests and get you out of the kitchen in time for the party. Take a look. MOLL ANDERSON: NO-STRESS HOLIDAY RECIPES MICHELLE WILSON: So, Moll, you have set up some wonderful items for us. GRAPHIC: Moll Anderson Author: Change Your Life, Change Your Home Moll Anderson: Basically we’re starting with what I think is one of the coolest desserts, and could be a gift. You could buy a beautiful box and set these in there. Look at these. MICHELLE WILSON: And they’re beautiful. Moll Anderson: They’re called snowballs. Aren’t they fabulous? MICHELLE WILSON: They look like truffles. GRAPHIC: Oreo Snowball Truffles Moll Anderson: Well, they do look like truffles, and they’re not. And they’re so easy, literally. Guess what? A package of Oreo cookies. MICHELLE WILSON: A package of Oreo cookies. Moll Anderson: And as a matter of fact, I’ll just let you enjoy the fun. Take one of those. MICHELLE WILSON: Oh, goodness. Moll Anderson: And look, you just literally them up like so. MICHELLE WILSON: Crumble them up. Moll Anderson: Toss them in there, okay? MICHELLE WILSON: With the cream and everything? Moll Anderson: With the cream and everything. And you get them all crunched up inside here like that. And then we’re going to take some cream cheese. MICHELLE WILSON: Cream cheese, the whipped kind. Moll Anderson: And we get the whipped cream cheese. And I’m going to give you that spatula. MICHELLE WILSON: Okay. So just put all of this in here. Moll Anderson: I want you to put all that in there. MICHELLE WILSON: Okay. Mix it up. Moll Anderson: We’re going to mix it up. MICHELLE WILSON: It smells good. Moll Anderson: Doesn’t it smell great. MICHELLE WILSON: Mmm. Moll Anderson: Oh, my gosh. MICHELLE WILSON: It smells very rich. Moll Anderson: Okay. You keep going on this. MICHELLE WILSON: Okay. So we keep doing that. Moll Anderson: Then what you’re going to do, while Michelle’s still working on that, is you need a melting chocolate. And this is vanilla, which is great. And they come in bars. And I just took some of those and put them in a little bowl. And I’ve got them right here in the microwave, melted. MICHELLE WILSON: So how long do you melt it? Because sometimes it’s kind of tricky melting chocolate. Moll Anderson: Well, the first time I take about a minute. And then you stir it up, put in, and then do like 30-second intervals. That way it doesn’t get too hot. But look at that. Isn’t that fabulous? MICHELLE WILSON: Mmm. It looks great. I just want to eat that and eat this right now. Moll Anderson: I know. Now, this is so much fun to do. MICHELLE WILSON: Okay. Moll Anderson: And what we’re going to do here is we’re going to make little . . . . MICHELLE WILSON: We washed our hands. Moll Anderson: Just like that. See? MICHELLE WILSON: Make little balls. Moll Anderson: I’m telling you, kids will have a blast doing this. And then I’m going to take this like that, and then kind of roll it around in the chocolate. A little snowball. MICHELLE WILSON: An Oreo snowball truffle. Moll Anderson: And now, the real test, Michelle. MICHELLE WILSON: Oh, goodness. I get to try one. Moll Anderson: You need to try one. Pick one. Not from the bottom, because they all go tumbling off of the tray. Okay. Take a little bite and tell me what you think, honestly. MICHELLE WILSON: Mmm! Moll Anderson: Isn’t that fabulous. MICHELLE WILSON: This is wonderful. Moll Anderson: Yes. They’re not low-cal, but they’re not supposed to be! MICHELLE WILSON: This is really, really, really good. Moll Anderson: Isn’t it amazing? This is really a beautiful dessert. And what’s really exciting about this is it’s all done in one skillet. MICHELLE WILSON: One skillet. Moll Anderson: Can you believe that? MICHELLE WILSON: Wow. Talk about “no stress.” Moll Anderson: No stress is about no mess, right? All right. GRAPHIC: Cranberry Upside-down Cake So this is a cranberry upside-down cake, and it is so simple. Are you ready for this? MICHELLE WILSON: I’m ready. Moll Anderson: Okay. Your favorite golden cake mix. All right? So this is not about from scratch. It’s not necessary. It’s about getting it done so you can go enjoy the holidays. So what I’ve done is I’ve gone ahead and mixed up one golden cake mix. Then I’ve also got here three-quarters cup of brown sugar. MICHELLE WILSON: Brown sugar. Moll Anderson: And we’re going to use a half a cup of the butter. GRAPHIC: For more information go to CBN.com What I’ve done—ready for this? MICHELLE WILSON: Yes. Moll Anderson: . . . . is here’s my black skillet. I’ve already gone ahead and melted the brown sugar and the butter into the bottom of the skillet, just like this. Now, I’ve got that here. Now, the ingredient that, of course, is most important is cranberries. So I’ve got one whole bag of beautiful red cranberries. And I’m going to take those, and I’m literally going to pour the whole . . . . MICHELLE WILSON: All of that? Moll Anderson: The whole bowl. MICHELLE WILSON: Wow. Moll Anderson: Okay? And I’m going to spread them out, right? Then we have our cake mix. So just dump that in there. Yes. Well, we try to do it so that it’s not like coming over the edges. But I’m going to take all this and just fill the whole entire cake batter . . . . MICHELLE WILSON: Looks very easy. Moll Anderson: . . . . into this. Let me put this out of the way here. And just spread it around. MICHELLE WILSON: Spread it around. Make sure you cover all the cranberries. Moll Anderson: Yes. And I preheated my oven to 350, and it’s awaiting. MICHELLE WILSON: Great. Moll Anderson: And look at that. Isn’t that pretty? MICHELLE WILSON: Mm-hm. Moll Anderson: And it’s so simple. I’m going to stick that in here. MICHELLE WILSON: So how long is it going to take to cook? Moll Anderson: It will take about, let’s see, I think 45 minutes. MICHELLE WILSON: Is that it? Moll Anderson: Yes. MICHELLE WILSON: And this is what it looks like. Moll Anderson: And this is the finished product. The real test. Girlfriend, there you go. I’m even going to take a little bite. MICHELLE WILSON: All right. Moll Anderson: Tell me what you think. This is the way real girls eat. MICHELLE WILSON: That’s right. No knives. Moll Anderson: Oh, my gosh. It’s so good I can’t even resist it. MICHELLE WILSON: Mmm! Moll Anderson: All right. Now we’ve got two desserts down. Be perfect on the buffet. No mess, except for a couple of bowls, right? MICHELLE WILSON: Mm-hm. Moll Anderson: I’ve got another drink that’s really fun. GRAPHIC: Pomegranate Cranberry Spritzer It is a pomegranate-cranberry spritzer. All I did was take cranberry juice, Sprite or 7-Up, some sparkling water, okay, and then also the pomegranate juice. This is a pomegranate, and we opened it up and took the seeds out. And this is just kind of a fun extra little touch. And aren’t they beautiful? MICHELLE WILSON: Mm-hm. Moll Anderson: And then you take these, put a few of those in here. And pomegranates have wonderful antioxidants inside them. And then just take a little mint sprig, like so, and garnish. MICHELLE WILSON: Great. Moll Anderson: Well, girl, here’s to a no-stress holiday home. MICHELLE WILSON: Thank you for helping to really start our holidays out the right way. Moll Anderson: Oh, it’s been fun. Absolutely. MICHELLE WILSON: Cheers. Moll Anderson: Cheers. MICHELLE WILSON: Happy holidays to you. Moll Anderson: And God bless. MICHELLE WILSON: God bless. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TERRY MEEUWSEN: Fun, beautiful and easy. GRAPHIC: CHANGE YOUR HOME CHANGE YOUR LIFE If you’d like more ideas from Moll Anderson, she’s written a wonderful book called Change Your Home, Change Your Life. She’ll be back on Thursday to show us some more great holiday decorations. PAT ROBERTSON: Did you see that woman? She looks like she just stepped out of the beauty parlor. I mean, not one hair out of place. Everything’s perfect, just beautifully coiffed. And she’s making all that sloppy stuff, and it doesn’t seem to get on her. TERRY MEEUWSEN: It doesn’t phase her at all. She looks perfect. PAT ROBERTSON: How do they do that? TERRY MEEUWSEN: I don’t know, because it doesn’t work for me. PAT ROBERTSON: Me neither. Well, coming up, ladies and gentlemen, this is something that I really like. GRAPHIC: HORSE WHISPERER It’s a real-life horse whisperer. He will reveal the secret of his trade. Plus, we’ve got mail. GRAPHIC: BRING IT ON “I want to teach my children that Christmas is more than gifts under the tree. How can I do this?” Hannah writes, “I want to teach my children that Christmas is more than gifts under the tree. How can I do that?” Well, we’ll Bring It On with that and a whole lot of other questions. 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Or go to HumanaFreeBook.com. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, in certain parts of Nigeria, it’s hard to find even the most basic necessities. People in one village battled bees, wasps and worms just for a drink of water. HALIMA AND THE BEES DAN REANY: Every day, Halima had to walk more than a mile to her village’s only water source: a stagnant stream. Halima: The animals also drank there. The water smelled like cow urine and had worms growing in it, but we had no choice but to drink it that way. We never had enough water for drinking, cooking, or bathing our babies. DAN REANY: What made the problem even worse were the wasps and bees that covered the area around the stream. They tormented everyone who came through. Halima: Getting water was terrible. The bees attacked and stung us all the time. The stings make you swell up, give you a fever, and cause a bad rash that goes all over your body. DAN REANY: A local missionary contacted Operation Blessing, and before long, Halima and the others had a new well. Now they have plenty of fresh, clean water right in the middle of the village, and away from the bees and wasps. Halima: We suffered so much that we cried out to God for help. Then He sent you. Our joy knows no bounds. We are grateful to God for what He has done through Operation Blessing. We will always be grateful. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TERRY MEEUWSEN: Clean drinking water. GRAPHIC: 1-800-759-0700 CBN.COM Many places in the world don’t have it. If you’re a 700 Club member, you’re helping us bring that to them on a regular basis all around the world. If you’re not a 700 Club member, you can be a part of this. It’s making such a difference in the lives of people in the nations of the earth, places you may never have heard of, places you’ll probably never go. But you can go through The 700 Club and CBN. Join us. It’s just 65 cents a day, 20 dollars a month. We can make a huge difference, if you’ll call the number that’s on your screen right now. Just say, “I want to join The 700 Club,” become part of the family of ministries here. GRAPHIC: YOURS WHEN YOU JOIN 1-800-759-0700 CBN.COM Our way of saying thank you to you is to send you Pat’s recent DVD, or this is a CD actually, Right on the Money with excerpts from his book of the same title. And in these difficult financial times, we know this will be a blessing to you. And you will have the satisfaction of knowing you are touching and changing people’s lives in a very needy way. PAT ROBERTSON: It thrills you to see that. And to think, ladies and gentlemen, what clean water is. We take it for granted. We have clean water, and so many people don’t have it. We’re giving wells all around country—all around the world. Not around the country, around the world. Well, folks, they say there are two steps to riding a horse. Step one, get on. Step two, stay on. Trainer John Lyons will tell you it’s a bit more complicated than that. He says you have to teach the horse who’s in charge, a lesson he had to learn in his own life. Watch this. JOHN LYONS: HORSE WHISPERER John Lyons: If I don’t change, then what will happen is he’ll develop more confidence in me. And his world will start to get smaller and smaller, and he won’t focused on all the other horses. ANDREW KNOX: John Lyons has been called America’s most trusted horseman. And over the last 25 years, he’s trained thousands of horses, some the most expensive in the world. But as much as he loves horses, John has learned that owning and training them starts with understanding who’s in charge. It’s a bit of wisdom he shares with those who attend his training clinics. John Lyons: I recognized at some point in time I was going to have to stand in front of God and tell Him why I did these things to these horses. ANDREW KNOX: John was a young man when he realized his priorities needed to be realigned. He was trying to get a horse ready for a performance, listening to many people who had many opinions. But the horse wasn’t responding well to any of this training, so John took his frustration out on the animal, working the horse harder than needed. At the end of the day, John knew something needed to change. John Lyons: That was the day that made the biggest change in my life, because I stopped listening to other people and what was okay or not okay to do to a horse. At that point, I knew I had to answer to Him.” And certainly, golly, I’ve made a gazillion mistakes since then. This is God’s horse. It is not my horse. ANDREW KNOX: John has implemented that philosophy not only in his personal life, but in the family business as well. That includes his wife, Jody. Jody Lyons: Christ is a part of every piece of everything that we do. ANDREW KNOX: The Lyons’ business takes them on the road 45 weeks of the year. Their demonstration horses, Preacher and Charlie, travel thousands of miles to clinics and expositions that draw many who are fans of John’s method of training horses. John sees it differently. John Lyons: God has given me a good foundation with the horse to share Him with people. He didn’t give me a good foundation with the horse so that I could be a good horseman. ANDREW KNOX: What John has learned over the years he’s shared with his sons, Josh and Mike. John Lyons: I don’t want my kids to be horse trainers or not horse trainers. What I want them to do the most is enjoy their days and recognize those days are numbered, and to enjoy their life and have that peace that God offers us. ANDREW KNOX: As the sun sets behind the mesas near the Lyons’ home in Parachute, Colorado, John and his family reflect on the day and think about what tomorrow might bring, another day of training horses and understanding who’s in charge. John Lyons: The horses are here and gone. Solomon is gone. David is gone. All the kings have gone. The castles have fallen. And so what lasts is our relationship with God. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: Well, what a fun guy. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Amazing. That’s a great lesson for all of us. PAT ROBERTSON: Yes. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Life is a vapor. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I train horses, and I’ve learned a lot from these . . . . TERRY MEEUWSEN: They’re beautiful animals. PAT ROBERTSON: Yes. Well, also they’re herd creatures, and they will follow the leader. They have to know who the leader is, and they get confused if they don’t know who the leader is. And if they become the leader, then it’s “Katie bar the door.” TERRY MEEUWSEN: Yes. PAT ROBERTSON: But they will not kick the herd later. They will not bite the herd later. They will not do anything obstreperous with the herd later. So you teach them that you are the herd leader. TERRY MEEUWSEN: But it takes some time and effort. You’ve got some big horses, too. PAT ROBERTSON: Big ones, but they’re so sweet. Okay. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Good leader. PAT ROBERTSON: I had a big stallion, too. Oh, man, he and I were so close. And he got injured, and I had to put him out on a farm someplace. But he was really a great horse. I called him “Baby.” I got him when he was a yearling. They really get attached to you. With a horse—and I’m taking up valuable time—but if you can visualize pictures, I mean, if you could do it yourself, you can communicate with the horse, because he can see the pictures. It’s amazing. TERRY MEEUWSEN: They’re very smart. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, they’ll flow with you. Because they’re out there, and one of them senses a cougar, and they all start running together. But they can sense back and forth. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Yes. PAT ROBERTSON: And so if you can see something and think something—with a good horse, all you’ve got to do is think it, and they’ll do it. All right. What’s next? BRING IT ON TERRY MEEUWSEN: Okay. We’ve got some email questions. PAT ROBERTSON: All right. TERRY MEEUWSEN: This is from Hannah, who says, . . . . GRAPHIC: BRING IT ON My husband and I want our 10- and 12- year-old sons to learn that there is more to Christmas than gifts under the tree. We would like to volunteer somewhere as a family, but we don’t know where to look. How do we find out what needs there are in our area? – HANNAH . . . . “My husband and I want our 10- and 12-year-old sons to learn that there’s more to Christmas than gifts under the tree. We’d like to volunteer somewhere as a family, but we don’t know where to look. How do we find out what needs there are in our area?” PAT ROBERTSON: Well, Hannah, there are wonderful missions. We have here something called the Union Gospel Mission. They have things for the poor. Of course, there’s The Salvation Army that has wonderful things they do. And there are many others. But you can find out. And a lot of churches have Christmas activities. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Outreaches. PAT ROBERTSON: Outreaches. Especially to the shut-ins. And it is such a blessing to have a young person go to Mrs. Smith’s house, and she’s 85 years old and a shut-in, and to have that young man come. And he’ll learn how welcome he is, and it’s a great thing. Okay. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Wonderful. This is Cristy, who says, . . . . GRAPHIC: BRING IT ON My parents separated when I was very young. My older sister and I went with our dad; our younger brother stayed with our mother. Now, due to illness, my dad feels he won’t be around much longer and he wants me to help him find my brother. I don’t want my dad to think I don’t care, but through prayer over the past 25 years I feel as though I have had closure with the situation. Now, because of Dad’s request, I’m feeling conflicted about what I should do. What would you advise? – CRISTY “My parents separated when I was very young. My older sister and I went with our dad. Our younger brother stayed with our mother. Now, due to illness, my dad feels he won’t be around much longer, and he wants me to help him find my brother. I don’t want my dad to think I don’t care; but through prayer over the past 25 years, I feel as though I’ve had closure with the situation. Now, because of Dad’s request, I’m feeling conflicted about what I should do. What would you advise?” PAT ROBERTSON: You ought to help your father find the brother. I mean, there’s no such thing as closure about your brother. I mean, I’m sure that the grief you have had may have gone away. But in terms of your brother, he’s still your brother. And remember the Prodigal Son. I mean, the father always yearned for that kid who was gone off and living in a far country. And I think that a father yearns for his son, and you ought to help your father find him. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, she might find even deeper closure than she realized by doing that. PAT ROBERTSON: The closure is you love him and the two of you united together as brother and sister. That’s closure. TERRY MEEUWSEN: That’s exactly right. Audrey says, . . . . GRAPHIC: BRING IT ON Dr. Robertson, when did Christ cease to be Jewish? Why aren’t Christians Jews? -- AUDREY . . . . “Dr. Robertson, when did Christ cease to be Jewish? Why aren’t Christians Jews?” PAT ROBERTSON: Well, He never stopped being a Jew. He was a Jewish Messiah, and He said to everybody, “I’m the Messiah.” The word “Christ” is “Messiah.” It’s the Greek of the Hebrew Meschiach, which is the “Anointed One.” However, I suppose when He was resurrected from the grave, He now took on a spiritual dimension. He no longer was limited to one nation, one tribe. He now was the Savior of the whole earth, and that’s how we regard him. But when did He cease being Jewish? TERRY MEEUWSEN: Never. PAT ROBERTSON: I’m not sure He did. Well, we leave you with these words from Ephesians . . . . GRAPHIC: Ephesians 3:16 “I pray that out of His glorious riches He may strengthen you with power through His Spirit in your inner being.” (NIV) . . . . “I pray that out of His glorious riches He may strengthen you with power through His Spirit in your inner being.” See you tomorrow. Bye-bye. GRAPHIC: CHRISTIAN BROADCASTING NETWORK, INC. COPYRIGHT 2009 * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * END SPOT: HOLIDAY OF HOPE CHRISTMAS Announcer: It’s Christmastime, the wonderful season when we remember the birth of Jesus Christ. 700 Club partners, this is the perfect time to make your celebration complete, by helping people who are in desperate need. 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