The 700 Club: December 8, 2009

The 700 Club Daily Broadcast Tuesday, December 8, 2009 PAT ROBERTSON: Well, welcome to The 700 Club. Is global warming a scam? Is the earth actually getting cooler? Or are we engaged in a huge political imbroglio that’s taking place in Copenhagen? Well, whatever it is, trust me, it’s going to cost you a lot of money. TERRY MEEUWSEN: That’s right. Politicians are warning that the world has little time to prevent a disaster, but skeptics question, as Pat said, whether the crisis is really real at all. Here’s Dale Hurd. WARMING DALE HURD: The climate summit has issued an urgent call to action despite what some are calling the worst scientific scandal of our time: leaked e-mails indicating scientists at a leading British climate research facility were changing temperature data to make it look like the earth is warming. The e-mails have been a major embarrassment for the UN which finally after a month decided to open an investigation. But the overall attitude by UN officials has been dismissive. Connie Hedegaard (Climate Summit President): Whether you want to discuss things like that and leaked e-mails, I think we should take care not to be derailed here, because the matter is that we need to act for numerous reasons. DALE HURD: The media has mostly played down or ignored what many feel is a huge story. But the scandal is having an impact. Australia voted down new climate regulations last week because of the British e-mails. Still, the clear message from Copenhagen is if we don’t stop climate change, a lot of us are going to die. The summit opened with this short film showing a young girl terrified by climate change. Girl: Please, help the world. Boy: Please help save the world. DALE HURD: Whether it’s the falling polar bears in this recent spot—they supposedly die because people ride in jetliners that warm the earth and melt the icebergs—or the cute animals who are shown committing suicide because they’re so depressed about climate change, the world has been subject to a constant media message that climate change is the world's top problem, provoking fear like this. Axam Maumoon (Maldives Islander): If they don't take action, if they don't bring any change, our country, we will all be wiped out. DALE HURD: One of climate skeptics mentioned negatively in the British e-mails is Dr. Pat Michaels. Michaels was removed as the state climatologist of Virginia because he rejects the climate doomsday theory. Patrick Michaels (CATO Institute): I'm not convinced that there are that many scientists who view this as this apocalyptic end of the world issue, but that gets a lot of coverage. If I tell you the world is going to end, I'll get on TV. If I tell you that it's not, I probably won't. DALE HURD: The climate doomsday theory brings big grant money, jobs and notoriety to climate science, which is no doubt why some scientists might be tempted to fudge the statistics to keep this issue alive. President Obama will not arrive at the summit until the last day. This hugely popular video on the Internet featuring British conservative Christopher Monckton warns that the President will sign away America's sovereignty to a world government that will be formed to combat climate change. GRAPHIC: YOUTUBE Christopher Monckton (Climate Skeptic): At Copenhagen this December, weeks away, a treaty will be signed. Your President will sign it. And what it says is this: that a world government is going to be created. DALE HURD: But Dr. Charles Dunn, dean of the Robertson School of Government at Regent University, says any treaties signed by the President have to be approved by the Senate. Charles Dunn, PHD (Regent University): We are a sovereign nation and there should be no ceding of sovereignty without the ratification by an extraordinary majority of the United States Senate. DALE HURD: And world leaders have also already decided that no binding treaties will be signed at Copenhagen. So it looks like the biggest victims from this summit will be those poor falling polar bears because of the 40,000 tons of carbon generated by the conference which, if you believe the environmentalists, will melt a lot more icebergs. Dale Hurd, CBN News. PAT ROBERTSON: Thank you, Dale. I was reading something today in my briefing that apparently there was a big wall at the Smithsonian Institute showing a curve of the fact that we’re entering another ice era. And the report I read—I haven’t been up there to see it—said that that has now been covered over, because it’s an inconvenient truth. TERRY MEEUWSEN: But these blatant video gimmicks to people who are supposed to be studied on this, it just kind of boggles the mind, doesn’t it? PAT ROBERTSON: Well, fear is a tremendous motivator. You either get motivated by greed or you get motivated by fear. So now they’re using fear. “Your country is going to be gone. It’s going to be overwhelmed by the oceans. And prostitution will rise in the Philippines, because of global warming. And people will commit suicide.” But I haven’t seen any monkeys yet committing suicide, but they’ve got them on those spots. Well, Lee Webb, let’s keep sanity. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Please. ISLAMIC SPEAKER LEE WEBB: Well, I don’t know if we can do that with this next story, Pat. The US military is facing criticism for bringing a controversial Islamic speaker to Fort Hood. This comes just one month after a radical Muslim's shooting spree there that killed 13 soldiers. Dr. Louay Safi lectured on Islam last week to US troops about to deploy to Afghanistan. CBN News terrorism analyst Erick Stakelbeck has more on why this has some upset. Erick. ERICK STAKELBECK: HI, Lee. Dr. Louay Safi is a top official for the Islamic Society of North America, or ISNA. Now, in 2007, that group was named as an un-indicted co-conspirator in the largest terrorism financing trial in US history. Evidence introduced at that trial showed that ISNA is closely tied to the Muslim Brotherhood. The brotherhood is a global Islamic jihadist movement that laid the foundation for groups like al Qaeda and Hamas. Safi has also worked for a Saudi-funded organization called the International Institute of Islamic Thought. That group has long been on the radar screen of federal investigators. So how was Safi chosen to speak at Fort Hood? A Fort Hood spokesman told CBN News that all of the speakers have been vetted and that Safi was vetted, as other speakers, and that his views were not found to be radical. Lee. LEE WEBB: Erick, let me ask you, how could this happen? It seemed like with the leadership at Fort Hood it should have raised some sort of red flag. Did they admit that at least? ERICK STAKELBECK: Lee, they didn’t. Actually, Lee, all of this information about Safi is readily available by doing a simple Google search. But a Fort Hood spokesman told me that there were no red flags raised in their research of Safi. They said that his viewpoints and his ideology lined up perfectly with the course they were teaching. The course was about the theology of Islam, so, Lee, we had Safi, a situation where a guy like Louay Safi, who was captured on FBI wiretaps in 1995, Lee, talking to a convicted Palestinian terrorist. We had this guy lecturing to US troops of the 135th expeditionary unit about Islam before they were ready to depart for Afghanistan. It really boggles the mind, Lee. But Safi isn’t the only ISNA representative to meet in the highest echelons of the US government. The president of ISNA actually spoke at a prayer breakfast for President Obama during his inauguration last year, and also the FBI meets with members of the ISNA, and the Department of Justice, Lee. This is across the board a big problem. PAT ROBERTSON: Erick, I’m shocked. Well, I’m not shocked, either. The American people have just decided they’re going to be willingly blind to the facts at hand. They will not identify Islam for what it is. They will not identify this radical ideology. And they will not identify the sources. If they would go back and read the Koran, if they would go back and see what Mohammed said, if they would go back and see what the Muslims and the people in the various mosques are saying, what these imams are teaching, it’s shocking. The brotherhood is what killed Anwar Sadat, isn’t it? ERICK STAKELBECK: Absolutely, Pat. The brotherhood is the granddaddy of them all, the granddaddy of all the Islamic jihadist terrorist groups: al Qaeda, Hamas. Hamas, Pat, which has killed thousands of Israeli civilians and several American civilians, is the Palestinian branch of the Muslim Brotherhood. Now the most dangerous thing about the brotherhood is they are a wolf in sheep’s clothing. They will come, they will be dressed like you and I, Pat. They will be wearing suits, ties, very eloquent, very well spoken, very well educated. And this enables them to enter the halls of power with their stealth jihad agenda. LEE WEBB: All right, Erick, thank you for that report and keep us updated on that if you will. ERICK STAKELBECK: I will, Lee. Thank you. REID, SLAVERY AND HEALTH CARE LEE WEBB: In other news, the Senate is considering a new version of the public option in an attempt to pass health care. The new plan does not include a government insurance program. Instead, private companies would provide the same policies that members of Congress and the federal government receive. Meanwhile, Senate Democratic Leader Harry Reid is under fire from Republicans for comparing opponents of health care to supporters of slavery. Sen. Harry Reid ([D] Majority Leader): You think you've heard these same excuses before? You're right. When this country belatedly recognized the wrongs of slavery, there were those who dug in their heels and said, “Slow down. It's too early.” LEE WEBB: Senator Reid neglected to point out it was actually the Democrats who supported keeping slavery during the presidential campaign of 1864. That’s while the Civil War was still underway, Pat. PAT ROBERTSON: It’s shocking that Harry Reid, he comes through so mild mannered, but he’s like a reptile. He’s just amazing, what he’ll do. And this is so over the top. And yet he butchers history, because indeed, as you say, Lee, it was the Democrats who were in favor of slavery. It was the Republicans right down the line who voted to stop it. TERRY MEEUWSEN: But he stands to lose a lot personally politically if this doesn’t go through, right? PAT ROBERTSON: Oh, yes. But he doesn’t have as much on the line as Obama. But I can’t understand what it is. And they lie. This is a wonderful thing. And as was pointed out last night on one news show, in terms of freedom, this isn’t freedom. This is slavery. There are like about 160 commissions that are being set up to monitor health care. We’re going to be locked in to a government-owned healthcare system that will virtually be impossible to get out of. You talk about slavery. Harry Reid and his ilk want to impose slavery on you and me. And I don’t like it. Lee. JOBS LEE WEBB: Pat, 10 months after signing the 787 billion stimulus package, President Obama is redirecting his focus on jobs. He says he has a plan now to put Americans back to work. But as John Jessup reports, not everyone is on board. JOHN JESSUP: First it was the bailout for Wall Street. Now it's the bailout for Main Street. Leading Democrats in Washington want to tap into unused money from the 700-billion-dollar bank bailout fund to fuel the creation of new American jobs. President Barack Obama: Our biggest challenge now is making sure that job growth matches up with economic growth. JOHN JESSUP: Some of the ideas include freeing up badly needed credit for small businesses, new construction projects and tax rebates for people who weatherize their homes. Republicans are not on board with the blueprint that is being laid out. Rep. Mike Pence ([R] Arizona): For this President or this Democratic Congress to propose using TARP funds for anything other than deficit reduction is simply a violation of the law. JOHN JESSUP: Today’s announcement couldn’t come are a more critical time for the President. Mr. Obama’s overall job approval rating has sunk to 47 percent, a new low. And 53 percent of Americans do not approve of his handling of the economy. With unemployment at 10 percent going into a midterm election year, Democrats want to be perceived as being on top of America’s number one public concern: jobs. John Jessup, CBN News, Washington. LEE WEBB: That’s right. Pat, a lot of pundits are saying when it comes down to it, in 2012, Americans aren’t going to look to Afghanistan, Iraq, health care, any of that. They’re going to be looking at jobs and the economy. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, it goes from 10.2 percent down to 10 percent, and everybody begins to applaud like some wonderful thing has happened. But it doesn’t count all those who have stopped looking for jobs. And Edward Yardeni, who was quite a figure in finance, has estimated that the cost per job I believe is about, what is it, 246,000 dollars per job. Is that what it is? The waste is appalling. And what they’re doing, if they wanted jobs, they need to get to the lowest common denominator and help businesses get loans, help businesses. Give them a roadmap that shows in the next five or six years that the government is not going to be fighting them. The government has been an enemy of capital. They’ve talked about the greedy businessmen, the greedy entrepreneurs. And they say, “We’re going to tax you. We’re going to tax you.” So why would any businessman take any kind of a risk if, a: he’s going to be taxed and then, b: on top of that for every employee he’s going to have crippling healthcare costs? It is counterproductive, and the people in Washington don’t seem to understand they’re killing business. Terry. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, still ahead, an African village celebrates Christmas for the very first time. GRAPHIC: THE FIRST CHRISTMAS Meet the group that made it happen, right after this. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 1: SWISS AMERICA “NEXT GEN” Grace W. (Arizona): My dad gave me this gold coin as a birthday gift. It’s a pure gold coin, which he says is to remind me of his enduring love. 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Man: This was a child I had to literally carry to the bathroom so he could throw up. WENDY GRIFFITH: Their home was killing them. Woman: And then it was all four kids. Then every night was like that. WENDY GRIFFITH: Is yours? What you need to know about your home. Tomorrow on The 700 Club. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: Well, one of the greatest revivals, spiritual revivals, in the world is taking place in Africa. And this Christmas, nearly two million Africans will read the story of Christ’s birth, this time in their own language, for the very first time. It’s part of an ambitious project to translate the Bible into their native tongues. As George Thomas reports, it’s a difficult, yet a rewarding process. FOCUS: CHRISTMAS IN MUSOMA Man: In the sixth month, God sent the angel Gabriel to Nazareth. GEORGE THOMAS: Two chapters, 100 verses. Man: She wrapped him in cloths and placed him in a manger. GEORGE THOMAS: This Christmas season . . . . Man: In the town of David a Savior has been born to you; He is Christ the Lord. GEORGE THOMAS: . . . . in the town of Musoma, Tanzania, Luke's biography of Jesus comes alive. Danny Foster: It's so significant that I, myself, have a hard time getting my own head around it. GEORGE THOMAS: Danny Foster is a Canadian linguist. He and a team of 18 Tanzanians are translating the first ever verses of scripture from Luke's Gospel. Danny Foster (Wycliffe Bible Translator): For many of them, it’s going to be their absolute first time, the story of the birth of Jesus Christ, for the first time in their languages. That's significant. GEORGE THOMAS: In this modest office in Musoma, men and women working for Wycliffe, the world's largest Bible translation organization, are busy translating the Christmas story into these nine African languages. Danny Foster: I believe that everybody has the right to read God's Word in their own language. It's a message from His heart to man's heart. GEORGE THOMAS: But to give God's Word in a language that people can understand is a daunting challenge. First, the team had to create the alphabets that they are using to write Luke 1 and 2 in, because they were languages that had not been written before. Danny Foster: Getting all the linguistic research done, checking the alphabet, just the amount of time spent alone on the alphabet and some of the basic grammar just so that we can actually write in these languages. GEORGE THOMAS: Musoma is the capital of an area known as the Mara Region here in northwest Tanzania. It is home to about 1.4 million people. Some nine similar languages are spoken in this one area. Danny Foster: We’re able to leverage certain similarities between these languages, and so a lot of the work we do doesn't have to get reduplicated nine times. We can do it once. GEORGE THOMAS: English and Swahili are Tanzania's official languages, but there are also 124 other minority languages spoken throughout the country. Julious Lukafuba speaks one of those minority languages. He says most of those who speak the smaller languages find English and Swahili difficult to understand, especially when it comes to reading the Bible. Rev. Julious Lukafuba (Wycliffe Translator): It is almost like reading another language. People can't understand it. GEORGE THOMAS: That’s why he and several others representing the nine different language groups have been working nonstop for the last 13 months. Rev. Julious Lukafuba (Wycliffe Translator): This is about transforming communities. My people will for the first time read God's Word in their own language. And I'm praying that their lives will be touched by the story of Christ's birth. GEORGE THOMAS: To accelerate the translation process, teams rely on software that uses related languages to adapt words and phrases to produce an initial rough draft translation. Next are the village tests. Are the translations readable? Teams fan out across the region holding community checks like this one. Rev. Julious Lukafuba: And so far the responses have been very positive. Reading the scriptures in their languages for the first time, many people wanted to keep copies of the rough draft. But we said that's not possible for now. GEORGE THOMAS: And once the community checks and revisions are complete, then it's up to men like George Payton to check the quality of the translation. In addition to checking for scriptural accuracy, Payton ensures that the translations are culturally acceptable. George Payton (Translation Consultant): And we try to do it using words and vocabulary that is acceptable, so that the people will honor and respect the Word of God. GEORGE THOMAS: And the focus here is not just about Bible translation. Wycliffe also promotes literacy and healthcare projects among the people with whom the translators are working. And while this Christmas project has been a huge blessing to the various linguistic groups here in northern Tanzania, another consequence has been the unity among the various denominations. In fact, today some 28 denominations have come together as a result of this project. Bishop Hilkiah Deya (Mara Anglican Church): Now we feel as one team working together. And that’s what Jesus wanted, a united church moving forward with the Gospel. GEORGE THOMAS: Translators are now in the final stretch. Their work will head to the printers this month and the distribution of the scriptures will follow shortly. In the meantime, work has already begun on translating the rest of the New Testament. Danny Foster: In the past, it was taking 15 to 20 years to translate the New Testament. We are aiming to do a thousand to 1,500 verses per year using this strategy. So we could see a New Testament completed in seven or eight years. GEORGE THOMAS: George Thomas, CBN News, Musoma, Tanzania. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: Terry, isn’t that encouraging? TERRY MEEUWSEN: Fascinating. PAT ROBERTSON: The work those people are doing, people behind the scenes, sort of faceless folks, laboring to get God’s Word out to people. And it’s succeeding wonderfully. TERRY MEEUWSEN: I didn’t realize there were so many tribal languages still untranslated. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I thought it was either Swahili or English in that part of Africa, but apparently that’s not true. All those little tribes have their own language. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Wouldn’t it be wonderful to see how the continent changes as the Word is made known to all. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, it’s already changing. TERRY MEEUWSEN: It’s wonderful. PAT ROBERTSON: But people are hungry for God. It’s just wonderful. Well, it’s Christmastime, ladies and gentlemen. We’re getting closer and closer to that happy day. And we now join Kristi to find out what’s coming up next. KRISTI WATTS: Thanks, Pat. Well, listen, Christmastime is literally right around the corner. And we know this is the time that everybody and their mama comes to visit your house. Well, we want to show you some wonderful, simple ways to get your house ready for those holiday guests, without breaking the budget, so don’t go away. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 2: NEWSMAX: SARAH PALIN Announcer: Sarah Palin has captured our attention and electrified America. Her new book, Going Rogue: An American Life, is a runaway national bestseller. Newsmax.com has an incredible offer for you. Get Sarah Palin’s new book Going Rogue for just 4.97. That’s a savings of 24 dollars off the cover price. Plus, you’ll get four months of award-winning Newsmax magazine absolutely free. Newsmax magazine covers the tough stories the media just won’t report. 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SET-UP PKG Layla Palmer: Hey, I’m Layla Palmer. Kevin Palmer: And I’m Kevin Palmer. Layla Palmer: And we are bloggers who design. Kevin Palmer: Or designers who blog. Typically we blog about the renovation of our own home. Layla Palmer: But today we’re going to check out a master bedroom in a Cape Cod style home. Kevin Palmer: We heard it could use some help, so let’s go inside and check it out. Layla Palmer: Let’s go. Kevin Palmer: Let’s go. So now we’re finally in the room. Layla Palmer: Here it is. We need to figure out a plan to make the bed look more centered on the windows. Kevin Palmer: And storage-wise, because we have two big pieces of furniture here . . . . Layla Palmer: Yes, and two little closets over here. Kevin Palmer: The floor. Layla Palmer: The floor. Kevin Palmer: We need to warm it up. Layla Palmer: Yes, we need to warm up the floor. And as for the bed, by losing the footboard, we can get a little bit more space than we have with it. Kevin Palmer: Definitely agree. So we have some challenges ahead of us. Layla Palmer: Yes. And we need to come up with a great plan. Kevin Palmer: Let’s go do it. High five. Okay, so we’ve seen the room now. What are the goals? What do we want to accomplish? Layla Palmer: Space planning. Shop smart. Shop the house. Kevin Palmer: Storage. And symmetry. Layla Palmer: Right. And with the space plan, we need to make sure that everything works with each other. When we shop the house, we can find a lot of things that we don’t have to go out and look for. But while we’re out, we do need to really shop smart. Let’s go shopping. Kevin Palmer: Let’s go shopping. Layla Palmer: We are here at Target, and we are ready to get our shop on. That’s so cute. That’s it. That’s all we need here. I love shopping at Marshalls because you can find pieces that look like they would be found in an antique store, but on clearance. This. I love this. We’ve been waiting in line for approximately 30 minutes. It’s for sure stuff. The rest of it would be great, but let’s see what we can come up with. They really are perfect. You don’t even know what kind I like. The celebration I’m having inside me right now. So 30 bucks on this would be . . . . Kevin Palmer: Doable. Layla Palmer: Kevin. I love TJ Maxx because you can find really great stuff for really inexpensive prices. So as you can see, we’re back from shopping. We got a lot of great stuff, and we had a blast. Kevin Palmer: Yes. Layla Palmer: Now it’s time to work on the room. Kevin Palmer: Yes. And we recruited some help, and I think they’re clearing the room out right now. Layla Palmer: I’m going to cut in. You’re going to roll. Kevin Palmer: That’s right. Layla Palmer: And I’m not even using tape, because we’re show offs. I’m just kidding. Kevin Palmer: Do you like the way I roll? Layla Palmer: I do like the way you roll. Kevin Palmer: She likes the way I roll. So another cool idea we’ve done is we’re using beadboard wallpaper on the back of the bookcases, and we’ve just attached it to a piece of and we’ll put it behind the bookcases, and it’s just going to give it a little extra pop. Layla Palmer: Another great way to save money is to use drop cloths as drapes. You can get them for around 10 dollars each at your local hardware store. Kevin Palmer: Okay, so we’re putting beadboard up on the wall, and here is why I love beadboard. It adds a whole new texture to the wall and to the room, and I’m a sucker for stripes. Layla Palmer: One way to really personalize your space is to add your own custom artwork. Here, we’ve taken photographs that we shot ourselves and put them in inexpensive frames. And wait until you see how great it looks in the room. So one thing I always tell people is to make sure they shop their house when looking for accessories. We found this great piece of black and white photography that’s perfect for the coastal bedroom that we’re creating. We look for picture frames and other little boxes that would add texture and color to the room. I bet you want to see how the room turned out, don’t you? Kevin Palmer: So do we. I hope we get it done in time. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * GUESTS: KEVIN AND LAYLA PALMER KRISTI WATTS: Okay, so Kevin and Layla Palmer, they’re waiting for us. And I can’t wait to see the room. Come on. Let’s go see. Oh, my goodness! Kevin Palmer: Hey there. KRISTI WATTS: Hey, guys, how are you? I’ve got to get a hug. Layla Palmer: I know. KRISTI WATTS: Nice to see you. Kevin Palmer: Hey there. Good to see you. KRISTI WATTS: First of all, I am tripping. This room looks incredible. Kevin Palmer: Thank you. Layla Palmer: It’s a lot different. KRISTI WATTS: Okay. A lot. A lot different. This is dynamic. Let’s talk about some of those differences. Layla Palmer: Okay. Kevin Palmer: Okay. KRISTI WATTS: Let’s the bring the before shots up. So what were some of the different challenges that you guys had in this room, or that you saw in this room beforehand? Layla Palmer: It was very cavernous. It was dark. It wasn’t like a bedroom. It was more like a cave. And you want to be relaxed in your bedroom. KRISTI WATTS: Yes. Yes. And I also noticed that a lot of the furniture was kind of big and bulky. Layla Palmer: Yes. Kevin Palmer: Yes, there was a lot of big furniture for the small space. And it wasn’t even centered completely on the window. We had windows that were off centered a little bit, which was making the bed looking a little bit weird. So we had to do some tricks there to cover that up. KRISTI WATTS: Interesting. And not only kind of the colors were kind of dark, but the hardwood floors, and I normally love hardwood floors . . . . Layla Palmer: Me, too. KRISTI WATTS: . . . . that kind of made the room even kind of cold. Layla Palmer: A little bit, because they’re gorgeous, but they’re not always warm underfoot. Kevin Palmer: Right. Layla Palmer: So it was all about bringing in textures and layers and really warming it up, but opening it up, too, which is tricky. KRISTI WATTS: Well, I have to say this. We see the before pictures, and obviously we’re looking at this room, at the after pictures, and I’m absolutely amazed. But what I’m even more amazed at, before we even get to what you guys did, is the fact that you guys have only been doing this for like a day. Layla Palmer: Yes. KRISTI WATTS: Not really, but you guys have been doing this for a short period of time. How did you get started? Layla Palmer: We bought a fixer upper. Kevin Palmer: Right. And when you buy a house that needs fixing up, you kind of learn as you go. Layla Palmer: Real quick. If you’re on a budget, you’re forced to just figure it out yourself. KRISTI WATTS: Well, the thing I thought was kind of fun was Kevin, she kind of told on you a little bit. And your wife said that you had never even really used a power tool before. Kevin Palmer: That is true. That is very true. She changed that quickly. She has no fear. She’s like, “Let’s knock down a wall. Let’s put up beadboard.” And I’m like, “Okay, what if we mess up?” She’s like, “Let’s just dive in.” Layla Palmer: We’ll fix it. KRISTI WATTS: Exactly. Kevin Palmer: Very quickly I learned how to use power tools. KRISTI WATTS: Exactly. Well, I’m looking at the cut on your finger. Have you learned well how to use a power tool? Kevin Palmer: Well, this happened late last night. And I haven’t had too many accidents, but this one got me. KRISTI WATTS: Okay. Okay. Kevin Palmer: But I’ll survive. Yes, I’ll survive. KRISTI WATTS: All right. Well, you guys have an amazing company. But before we talk a little about the Letter Cottage and where we can get information, let’s talk about the room. Kevin Palmer: Yes. Layla Palmer: The room. I know. KRISTI WATTS: All right, the challenges were that it was closed, it was dark, it was dank. And now it’s opened up. Layla Palmer: Right. KRISTI WATTS: All right. Let’s go to the bed board. A lot of the furniture was big and bulky. What are some of the different things that you did with the headboard? Layla Palmer: Okay, well, first of all, we got rid of the footboard, and the headboard was super high before. So we took that out to give us a little bit more space. And we brought in a really inexpensive headboard instead. It was a flea market find, and we gifted it to the homeowner, actually. That was our gift. Kevin Palmer: It cost about 20 dollars at a flea market. Layla Palmer: Yes. Yes. Kevin Palmer: Cheap, cheap, cheap. KRISTI WATTS: Cheap, cheap, cheap. Speaking of cheap, the bedspread. I was like, how do I transition? There was nothing that’s cheap, but a lot of inexpensive. Layla Palmer: Yes. KRISTI WATTS: The bedspread. I’m looking at this bedspread, and this looks like mad money, but you guys say no. Layla Palmer: No, no. You can buy the same stuff you’d find retail on eBay. And so we got all the bedding individually on different auctions on eBay for half the cost. KRISTI WATTS: Wow. Now, initially, Kevin, you had mentioned about the windows. And what made this room kind of off, and it was just a challenge, was the fact that the windows were off. Kevin Palmer: Right. KRISTI WATTS: And you guys did some amazing tricks. Layla Palmer: We’re magicians. KRISTI WATTS: You are magicians. Trick number one. Let’s talk about it. Layla Palmer: The windows, getting them to look like they’re actually in the center of the wall. It’s really an illusion. It’s about using a blind that’s maybe bigger than you need to get it to look like it’s centered and then using taller window treatments and wider window treatments to give the illusion of a bigger window, too, which also makes everything feel a little bit more grand. KRISTI WATTS: Yes. And I love the layered effect. And okay, remember, guys, when I first walked into this room the very first thing I said was, “I love the curtains!” And you said . . . Layla Palmer: They are 10-dollar drop cloths. KRISTI WATTS: Drop cloths, that you can get an any . . . . Layla Palmer: Hardware store. KRISTI WATTS: Yes. That one tripped me out. Layla Palmer: I know you’re going there right after we’re done. KRISTI WATTS: I really am. Okay, let’s talk about the bookshelves. That’s another one that just was outstanding to me. Layla Palmer: Good tip. Kevin Palmer: Yes, these bookshelves were actually bought, and they were really cheap. And we added crown molding to the top just to give it a built-in effect, so now it looks built in. And then on the back we put beadboard wallpaper, just to simulate the effect of the beadboard. But this is actually wallpaper that we just added that just looks like beadboard, so you get this whole built in look for a fraction of the cost of what it would cost to get an actual built in. KRISTI WATTS: Well, the other thing that I noticed as soon as I walked into the room I felt the mood was different, because the color was different. Kevin Palmer: Right. Layla Palmer: Yes. KRISTI WATTS: Let’s talk about the power of paint. Kevin Palmer: Definitely. Layla Palmer: Twenty dollars can change a room completely. Really. And before it was kind of a dark mustard, and she really wanted a coastal vibe, so I was thinking sand instantly. So we went with a sandy color, and it really does open up the room, I think. KRISTI WATTS: I love it. Here’s another thing. I love to shop at my favorite store. You guys want to know what it is? It is my mother’s basement. I think it’s the best place. And you say that’s actually a great tip, which is to get furniture in your own home. Layla Palmer: Yes, shop the house. Kevin Palmer: Definitely. Layla Palmer: You need to go around your house. You can find a lot of things. It will instantly freshen them up when you put them in a different room. KRISTI WATTS: Got you. One last thing I want to hit you is the artwork. Artwork can be really expensive, but you say that there is a way not to make it so expensive. Layla Palmer: Yes. Kevin Palmer: Yes, if you use your own artwork. These are all pictures that we shot ourselves, very inexpensive frames. You get artwork at half the cost, maybe even cheaper. KRISTI WATTS: Yes. I love it. All right, very last thing. You guys are so visual in how you put this together, and that’s one of my challenges, is how do I do it? But you have something called a visual consultation. What is that? Layla Palmer: Well, we virtually will build your room, so that we can make sure you get the right size furniture and that it’s placed in all the right spots, so that everything feels great when you finally move in. And you don’t make costly mistakes buying the wrong size before you get everything in. KRISTI WATTS: Brilliant. So I could actually send a picture to your web site. Layla Palmer: Yes. And we will build your room. And we will fly around it, just like we’re in your house. KRISTI WATTS: Well, I’m expecting for you guys to do that soon. Kevin, thank you so much for being here. Kevin Palmer: Thank you so much for having us. KRISTI WATTS: Layla, thank you so much for being here. Layla Palmer: Thank you. Thank you. KRISTI WATTS: You guys are wonderful. And if you want more information on, what is it, the Lettered Cottage? GRAPHIC: FOR MORE INFORMATION LOG ON TO CBN.COM Layla Palmer: The Lettered Cottage. KRISTI WATTS: TheLetteredCottage.com. They are the bomb. You can always log on to CBN.com as well, and we’ll link you from there. But in the meantime, thank you guys both for being here. And back over to you, Terry. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Thanks, Kristi. A great opportunity to spruce your house up in the coming year PAT ROBERTSON: But those guys are good, aren’t they? TERRY MEEUWSEN: They’re very good. PAT ROBERTSON: Yes. TERRY MEEUWSEN: That’s a very big thing right now, I think, for people to be able to have all these options for decorating, but a great idea to be able to go to the Lettered Cottage and get it done cyberspace, online. PAT ROBERTSON: Spell that. How is it? Letter? TERRY MEEUWSEN: The Lettered Cottage. PAT ROBERTSON: Lettered? TERRY MEEUWSEN: Lettered. L-e-t-t-e-r-e-d. The Lettered Cottage. GRAPHIC: FOR MORE INFORMATION LOG ON TO CBN.COM PAT ROBERTSON: Well, man, they’re good. And they’ll do it for you on the Internet. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Yes. Yes. PAT ROBERTSON: Wow. TERRY MEEUWSEN: So without ever leaving your home. PAT ROBERTSON: Then you’ve got to go . . . . TERRY MEEUWSEN: Then you’ve got to go get the power tools. PAT ROBERTSON: You’ve got to go to Target and whatever and get your paintbrush and hope you don’t kill yourself. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Exactly. PAT ROBERTSON: All right. What’s next? TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, still ahead, it’s time for us to answer e-mail. Sarah says, “I’ve heard that December 25th isn’t really Jesus’ actual birthday, but instead has something to do with the pagan sun god. I don’t want my kids celebrating a sun god, but I don’t want to tell them we can’t have Christmas. What should I do?” TERRY MEEUWSEN: We’re going to Bring It On with that question and more, later on today’s show. But first, this woman went to a Christmas concert and came back with two new kids. GRAPHIC: CHRISTMAS CONCERT Well, it wasn’t quite that fast. But hear her story, right after this. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 3: GOBIBLE Announcer: Tired of competing just to get your kids’ attention? You try to teach them as best you can, but are they listening? Feel like they’re being bombarded by the wrong messages? Well, now you can give them what they want and need. Introducing the Voyager, from GoBible, the leader in digital audio Bibles. GoBible is a revolutionary MP3 player that comes preloaded with the entire Bible narrated. Narrator: “Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil.” Announcer: That’s over 70 hours of scripture, searchable and playable by verse. Plus, it also has three additional gigabytes of storage space for all your personal downloads. It can hold up to 750 songs or over 100 hours of audio books. Now, you get something really worth hearing GoBible comes with both the Old and New Testament, in either King James, New King James or NIV. That’s right. 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Announcer #2: To order your GoBible, call 1-800-319-1583. That’s 1-800-319-1583. Call now or go to GetGoBible.com. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NJ GAY MARRIAGE JOHN JESSUP: Welcome to Washington for this CBN Newsbreak. A New Jersey state Senate committee approved a same-sex marriage bill Monday, clearing the way for a full Senate vote Thursday. Supporters of gay marriage hope to pass the bill before Republican Governor-Elect Chris Christie takes office in January. He has vowed to veto any same-sex marriage bill, but gay marriage opponents are confident the measure will not pass the full Senate. CHRISTMAS SIGN JOHN JESSUP: A “Merry Christmas” sign is back on display at the fire station in North Andover, Massachusetts. As we reported last week, town officials had ordered firefighters to take down the homemade sign because some people complained. The town manager said religious displays are not allowed in public buildings, but many residents protested. So officials backed down and let the firefighters post their “Merry Christmas” sign once again. Well, you can always get the latest from CBN News by going to our web site at CBN.com. Pat and Terry will be back with more of The 700 Club, right after this. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 4: CHRIS TOMLIN CHRISTMAS CD Announcer: From the writer of “How Great is Our God” comes a brand new Christmas worship project. Chris Tomlin: I’ve always wanted to do an album of Christmas songs. Announcer: Introducing Chris Tomlin: Glory in the Highest, Christmas songs of worship. A remarkable live album of 12 new and familiar carols transformed into powerful songs of worship. Chris Tomlin: I want people to hear people worshipping God with these songs. Announcer: To order for 9.99 plus shipping and handling, visit ChrisTomlinChristmas.com. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, have you ever been asked to do something you thought you couldn’t do or something you didn’t want to do? That’s exactly what happened to our next guest. And her answer turned an entire community upside down. SET-UP PIECE TIM BRANSON: It started with the sweet sound of a Liberian boy’s choir. When Lysa Terkeurst heard these boys sing in a North Carolina church four years ago, her heart was captured by two of the choir members. She learned that all of the boys were orphans and that while they were on tour in America to raise money for their orphanage their home in Liberia had been attacked and burned. Lysa knows what it’s like to live without a sense of belonging. She grew up without a father figure, so she and her husband, Art, adopted Jackson and Mark. That incredible act of love started an avalanche that swept over their entire community. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * GUEST: LYSA TERKEURST TERRY MEEUWSEN: Please welcome to The 700 Club author and speaker Lysa Terkeurst. Good to have you here. Lysa Terkeurst: Hi. Thank you. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Good to see you again. Lysa Terkeurst: Thank you. Good to be here. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Before you went to the Liberian boys’ choir performance, had you considered adoption, thought about it, desired to do it? Lysa Terkeurst: Well, I’ll tell you, I had my first child, and she came out in the delivery room barking orders and smoking a cigar, literally. So at that point, I thought I would only be the mother of one child. And then we had our second just a year later, and then our third three years later. And I finally figured out how all that was happening, and we felt very complete at that point. So, no, we didn’t consider adoption. I always thought adoption was for people who couldn’t have children biologically. But that all changed one day when we went to a choir concert. Now, I have to tell you, when we went that day to the Liberian Boys Acapella Choir, I didn’t even know where Liberia was. I told my kids it was in South America. And so we quickly figured out that it was actually on the west coast of Africa. So, no, I didn’t go there that day expecting to hear that we were supposed to adopt children. I didn’t even know where Liberia was. I was very aware that there was an orphan problem in Africa, but it felt so far removed. And isn’t that where most of us live? TERRY MEEUWSEN: Yes, it is. Lysa Terkeurst: It’s just a remote social issue that doesn’t affect us personally. And so it’s easy to say, “It’s so big and it’s so far removed. I can’t do anything,” until that orphan comes and stands in front of you. TERRY MEEUWSEN: And there is a name and a face put to a problem and a statistic. Lysa Terkeurst: Exactly. TERRY MEEUWSEN: But you were very specific. You came away saying, “There are two boys in this group I feel we’re supposed to adopt.” At what point did God say, “Psst, Lysa, those two.” Lysa Terkeurst: Well, in the midst of the concert, I was enamored with the music. But in the midst of it all, we heard the boys’ story. And suddenly I realized about the tragic circumstances in Liberia. I’ve been studying in my quiet time really the whole issue of faith, and I had felt very convicted. If I’m going to call myself a woman of faith, how is it that I live a life that actually requires no faith at all? If I’m very honest with myself, I had done such a good job as a Christian following all of the rules, doing everything that was expected of me and arranging my life so that my life didn’t require a lot of faith And then I sat in that concert, and I really felt as if the Lord was pressing on my chest, “Lysa, two of those boys are yours.” And the Lord had been preparing my heart, because the Christmas before, my husband and I decided we would give a gift to Jesus from our heart, that for the next 365 days, we would do something every single day, an act of kindness in Jesus’ name, to either give a little bit of our time, our money or our encouragement to one person every day, so that by next Christmas, 365 people will have been touched by the love of Jesus. That was in December. Our family started doing these daily experiences, where we reached out with the love of Jesus; and in August of that year, I attended that concert. The Lord had been preparing our heart in small ways. And I guess, though we are very ordinary people who struggle with junk drawers and, me, cellulite and all the normal things, I guess God loves to take ordinary people who are just willing to say yes and then help them become more than just Bible study people. We actually become people who, united with God’s strength, though we are weak, who can make a difference. We changed not only our lives and the lives of our boys, but then it wound up filtering out into our whole community. TERRY MEEUWSEN: How many people wound up adopting? Lysa Terkeurst: There have been 44 children adopted from that orphanage in Liberia into families within our community. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Wow. Lysa Terkeurst: And it blows my mind. It really does blow my mind. And it gives such proof that ordinary average people united with God’s strength and just being willing to say yes can change the world. TERRY MEEUWSEN: And saying yes is really just the beginning of the adventure, isn’t it? Lysa Terkeurst: Absolutely. TERRY MEEUWSEN: And yet that’s what you talk about in your book, becoming more than a good Bible study girl. You can be doing all the right things, but if you’re not living it out in the way you live every day and the way that you walk, the things that you do, you’re missing the adventure. Lysa Terkeurst: Right. And I think sometimes we make fate so complicated. And we fill up our mind. We go to Bible study, and we get all spiritually filled up. And yet if we’re very honest, our heart sometimes feels very far from experiencing Jesus. And so how many times have we all gone off to Bible study or gone off to church and come home feeling all spiritually filled up, and then an hour later bleach gets spilled on our favorite shirt. We have a complete meltdown. We’re yelling at our husband, accusing our children. And suddenly we realize, “What has happened? Why is it that Jesus works for me in church, but then when everyday messy life happens, I fall apart spiritually?” And so I wrote this book, Becoming More, because I want to help people realize being a Christian is not just about following the rules: go to church, don’t cuss, be nice, read your Bible. Those things are good, and those things are appropriate. But being a Christian is more than that. It should be a daily experience where our everyday life meets the reality of Jesus and we become successful Christians where really we are living Jesus out in our everyday life. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Growing and changing daily. It never ends. Sometimes we can get in that mode of feeling like we’ve arrived. We’ve read the Bible through several times. We’ve done the studies. We’re active in our church. But there is always more, isn’t there? Lysa Terkeurst: There’s always more. And the depth of experiencing Jesus, really experiencing Him, I think that’s what’s missing in a lot of our daily walks. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Yes. Lysa Terkeurst: For example, last year—and by the way, I’ll never be named mother of the year. Even though I now have five children, I’ll never be named that. And it’s so evident in my everyday life. I try so hard, but last year I was asked to bake brownies for the school bake sale. So I attempted to make 100 individually wrapped brownies, which I did just fine. Except when I was wrapping brownie number 97, my daughter walked through the kitchen, and said, “Mom, these brownies have nuts in them, and we go to a peanut free school.” And you see, suddenly . . . . . TERRY MEEUWSEN: So you’ve done 97 of the 100 with peanuts in them. Lysa Terkeurst: Yes. So I sat down on the floor and ate brownies 98, 99, 100. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, that works. Lysa Terkeurst: And I felt like such a failure. But, you see, this is how we connect Jesus to messy everyday life. In that moment, Jesus reminded my heart, “Lysa, yes, you may be a bake sale brownie failure, but that doesn’t define who you are, honey. You are a child of God who made a mistake. This brownie mistake doesn’t define you as a mother. It just defines that you need to pay a little more attention to the directions about the bake sale.” TERRY MEEUWSEN: And the adventure is to let Jesus define who we are. Lysa Terkeurst: Exactly. TERRY MEEUWSEN: It’s a wonderful book. It’s called Becoming More Than a Good Bible Study Girl: Living the Faith After Bible Class is Over. It’s available nationwide, and it will bless you and encourage you to live with gusto in the Lord. Thank you, Lysa, so much. Lysa Terkeurst: Oh, thank you, Terry. TERRY MEEUWSEN: It’s great to see you again. God bless you and your family. Lysa Terkeurst: Thank you. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Pat. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, we’re all reminded, keep the nuts out of the brownies. I like nuts in brownies. I like walnuts in brownies. But anyhow, we’re not peanut free at our house. Well, still ahead, we’re going to Bring It On with your e-mail. Patricia said, “My son and daughter-in-law are considering a divorce. Now I’m worried about my grandson. Is there anything I can do without seeming like an interfering grandmother?” PAT ROBERTSON: We’ll have that question and more, after this. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 5: LOVE FINDS A HOME Announcer: From bestselling author Janette Oke . . . . . Actor: Can you see it? Actress: A cabin, with curtains in the windows. Announcer: . . . . and acclaimed producer-director Michael Landon, Jr. . . . . Actor: Don’t leave. Stay with me. Announcer: . . . . comes the inspiring and heartwarming movie series that will captivate the entire family. Now available through this special TV offer, the Love Comes Softly DVD collection. Katherine Heigl, Dale Midkiff, Erin Cottrell and January Jones star in this original series that explores one family’s journey from heartbreak to triumph in the rugged heartland of America. Actress: I hope to be a doctor someday. Actor: Why would a lady want to subject herself to such a taxing line of work? Actor: Oh, boy. Announcer: Eight unforgettable stories you and your family will enjoy together. And the series continues with a new release, Love Finds a Home, starting Haylie Duff and acclaimed actress Patty Duke. Actress: The Lord says we are to forgive if we expect to be forgiven. Announcer: Call now to order Love Finds a Home on DVD for 17.95 and ask how you can get free shipping. Plus, find out how you can own the complete Love Comes Softly collection. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: Well, welcome back. We’re getting close to Christmas, and it’s kind of a nice time. And I hope people are getting more mellow. I don’t know if they are or not, but I hope so. Well, many parents warn their kids not to watch too much television. But not the mother in the next story. Here is how a TV show changed her son’s life. SPUNKY AND BOON MI KRISTI WATTS: Thirteen-year-old Boon Mi was your typical teenager, who loved to play soccer, Laotian style. Well, nothing wrong with that, except that the boy got so engrossed in his games that he forgot to study or do his chores. Mother: He is a good boy, but it was hard for him to obey. I worried about him. KRISTI WATTS: One day, a CBN video team came to Boon’s village in Laos with a television set and a DVD player. That afternoon, Boon and his friends watched a CBN animated program called Spunky which had been translated into the Laotian language. Boon Mi: I love Spunky. I remember how the dog got lost and wandered into a place where there was a play with an angel and a baby in a manger. I felt good watching that. KRISTI WATTS: Something happened to Boon after watching the CBN cartoon. He began to change. His mother was the first to notice. Mother: After watching the program, Boon Mi started to obey more quickly. He volunteered to help me in the house and even in the fields. And he’s been studying, too. I am so happy to see these changes in my son. KRISTI WATTS: CBN video teams hope to come back to Boon’s village with other cartoons, like Superbook, to bring this life changing message into the country of Laos. Mother: Thank you for helping my son. Boon Mi: Thank you, CBN, for the cartoons. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: There was a war over there. Do you remember? And everybody was protesting and screaming and rioting, and young men were being killed. And it was terrible. But now we’re bringing something much better to Laos and all over southeast Asia. GRAPHIC: 1-800-7590-0700 CBN.COM We’re bringing the love of Jesus Christ. It makes a difference. It makes a difference. You get touched by Jesus, and it makes a difference in the way you live. I want to offer you something. I’d like you to participate with us as a 700 Club member. And those that do, I want to send you this, Right on the Money. It’s an audio of my book about investing, about saving, about budgeting, all the practical things you need to manage your money. And I think it will be a great help to you. GRAPHIC: YOURS WHEN YOU JOIN 1-800-759-0700 CBN.COM TERRY MEEUWSEN: There is somebody from Pennsylvania that already listened to that, Pat. Her name is Eva. She’s from Redding. And she says, “The best! I knew very little about investing. Through the years going way back I’ve heeded Pat’s advice for my investments. It has worked well. I’ll always be grateful for Pat’s insight. Thank you and God bless.” So Right on the Money, this is a timely place in history for people to get some sound information on how to handle money. PAT ROBERTSON: When the markets are convoluting in turmoil, now is the time to understand how to make it happen. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * BRING IT ON PAT ROBERTSON: Okay, it’s time for e-mail! TERRY MEEUWSEN: Okay. You ready? This is from Sarah, who says, “I’ve heard that December 25th isn’t really Jesus’ actual birthday, but instead has something to do with a pagan sun god. I don’t want to celebrate a sun god, but I don’t want to tell my kids we can’t have Christmas. What should I do?” PAT ROBERTSON: Well, the 25th is the so-called start of the winter solstice. And a pope, about the year 300 or so, decided that rather than fight the pagans, what he’d do was get a holiday that would coincide with theirs, so that they will celebrate the Christian holiday instead of theirs. So he weaned them away from what they were doing in favor of Jesus. It really doesn’t matter if Jesus was born in September or October or November. It really doesn’t matter. What matters is that He was born. And this is the day we celebrate. It really doesn’t matter. So it’s not a question. We’re not celebrating the winter solstice. We’re not celebrating a sun god or some god of war or any other kind of god of some pagan religion. What we’re doing is celebrating the birth of Jesus. So don’t worry about it. But is that the exact date? Probably not. It doesn’t matter. TERRY MEEUWSEN: It’s the intent of the heart, right? PAT ROBERTSON: It is. Yes. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Okay, Patricia says, “My son and daughter-in-law are both struggling with their Christianity and now considering divorce. Their eight-year-old son is very intelligent, but has not developed well emotionally. He has begun to display ‘acting out’ behavior. Besides praying, is there anything else I can do to help my grandson without interfering?” PAT ROBERTSON: Patricia, I think you need to interfere, but I think the best way to do it, there must be somebody, a pastor or someone you rely on who is intelligent and knows how to do counseling who can counsel with your son, and is it daughter-in-law? TERRY MEEUWSEN: Daughter-in-law. PAT ROBERTSON: Yes. And bring them to an understanding of the Lord. Bring them closer together. They need marriage counseling, but they need it in a Christian context. And other than that, you can pray about it. But it’s better to have somebody help them along the way. And the Lord will use that counseling to bring them back to Himself. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Okay, this is Soray, who says, “Pat, I’m a born-again Christian and I married a wonderful Christian man. We have two young children and our third child is on the way. Lately we’ve been strongly disagreeing about which church to attend. I sense the Lord’s presence more at one church than the other, but my husband prefers the other church. How can I please both my husband and the Lord?” PAT ROBERTSON: Well, just because you sense something doesn’t mean you’re pleasing God by going there. It just means it feels good to you. And I think what you need to do is to submit yourself to your husband as under the Lord. And you go and you sit in that church and you worship God. And God is not displeased with the fact that you’re in that church if your husband is happy. And maybe the time will come that he will say, “We really ought to go to that other church.” But I think that would be the best way. You don’t want to have a big argument over what church you go to. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Certainly. Okay, this is Andrea, who says, “Dear Pat, I’m a Christian and have been struggling to understand the end of time. The thought of it really scares me, even though I’m a strong believer. What can I do to get rid of this fear?” PAT ROBERTSON: Andrea, the end of time is wonderful. This is the blessed hope. Jesus Christ is coming back again. He’s going to start Heaven. You’re going to be with Him forever in glory. This is the most wonderful thing in world. Why would you be afraid of that? TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, you have to say, though, that according to scripture, the day that people live in at the end of time is not going to be a pleasant time to be alive. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, so some stuff gets blown up, and your house and everything you own. . . . TERRY MEEUWSEN: Can we quote you on that? PAT ROBERTSON: . . . . gets blown up, and the elements melt with fervent heat and all the rest of it. But your spirit is going to be with Jesus. This is what we are hoping for. And the Bible says, “Even so, come Lord Jesus.” And this is called the blessed hope of the church. So why be afraid? Sure, I know all this. But we focus so much on the antichrist and on demons and natural disasters and so forth. We’re having all those natural disasters, and you’re still living. But the end is when Jesus comes back again, catches you up to be with Him forever. And that’s good news. How would you get over being afraid? Concentrate on what’s going to happen. TERRY MEEUWSEN: This is John, who says, “I’ve been taught that we are to be alone and uninterrupted during personal prayer and worship time. As a busy business owner, I have very little time to myself, let alone to be with God. Do my prayers and worship while driving count? It’s about the only time I have.” PAT ROBERTSON: John, God hears your prayers wherever you are if it’s from your heart. God is a Spirit. They that worship Him must worship in spirit and in truth. So you pray to Him in spirit. You worship Him in spirit. But you really should find some time to get away quiet, just so you can think and meditate on the Lord. So if you rush out of the house, jump in your car, you gulp down a cup of coffee and away you go to start making deal—you can get up at four in the morning, five, and spend time with the Lord, where you’re quiet. But God will hear your prayer wherever it’s from the heart. No problem. Well, folks, we leave you with these words from Proverbs . . . . GRAPHIC: Proverbs 30:5 “Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.” (NKJV) . . . . “Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in Him.” We’ll see you tomorrow. Bye, bye. GRAPHIC: COPYRIGHT 2009 CHRISTIAN BROADCASTING NETWORK * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * END SPOT: HOLIDAY OF HOPE Announcer: It’s Christmastime, the wonderful season when we remember the birth of Jesus Christ. 700 Club partners, this is the perfect time to make your celebration complete, by helping people who are in desperate need. Your donation to CBN’s Holiday of Hope will provide gifts that will