The 700 Club: November 17, 2009

UnderWing Transcripts PO Box 16282 Clearwater, Florida 33766 540 455-2333 / UnderWing@underwingtranscripts.com ________________________________________ The 700 Club Daily Broadcast Tuesday, November 17, 2009 PAT ROBERTSON: Well, welcome to The 700 Club. Nearly 2.5 million women in America have been diagnosed with breast cancer. Still, the government is telling women to wait an extra ten years before getting a mammogram. TERRY MEEUWSEN: They’re also saying that women shouldn’t be tested as often and that recommendation has created an enormous controversy. Here is John Jessup. MAMMOGRAMS JOHN JESSUP: For decades, the common practice to promote breast cancer awareness was for women to start getting mammograms at 40 and to get screened every year. But a government task force now recommends women should wait until they're 50 and get fewer mammograms, a procedure that has caught cancers early and saved lives. Dr. Diana Petitti (US Preventive Services Task Force): Screening every two years captures most of the benefit in terms of reducing breast cancer mortality, while decreasing the harms. JOHN JESSUP: The panel's conclusion contradicts the current recommendation that women start routine screening at age 40. Instead, it says women should wait until they turn 50, and rather than getting a mammogram every year, they should get screened ever other year. The panel went further, saying self exams do no good, and women shouldn't be taught how to do them. The reason? For the doctors and scientists that were a part of this study, they concluded that early and frequent screenings often lead to false alarms and more tests, which in turn unnecessarily drive up anxiety levels and health care costs. For some women, that's a price worth paying. Woman: This cancer thing, it's a crazy sickness, and we never know when it's going to pop up. JOHN JESSUP: The American Cancer Society disputes the new guidelines for now and stands by its advice for women 40 and over to get screened. Len Lichtenfeld (American Cancer Society): We're going to lose women from breast cancer. They will die as a result of that. And the task force is saying that’s okay. JOHN JESSUP: The panel says the new recommendations are for women in general and not for women who are high risk because of family history. Critics say the panel's guidelines could wind up hurting even more if insurance companies adopt the recommendations and stop paying for younger women to get screened. John Jessup, CBN News, Washington. PAT ROBERTSON: Thanks, John. My dear wife, I think it was 22 years ago, had a mammogram. The mammogram showed a few little irregularities. It turned with what they call a lumpectomy on top of that, it resulted in a mastectomy. And she’s still alive 22 years later. This cancer didn’t spread. And so I really think that she’s alive because of that mammogram. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, the problem with breast cancer is that it’s so pervasive in every way, because of the area of the body that it’s in. But this does some so contradictory, doesn’t it, to what’s been—how can you come up with some that’s the antithesis of . . . . . PAT ROBERTSON: Maybe the idea of false positives that these women are diagnosed as having breast cancer when they really don’t, and then it’s terrifying. I think they ought to get the at-risk group. Did you have a parent that had breast cancer? Did you have another relative with breast cancer? Is it something in your family? Is there progression of this stuff? And those are the people at high risk. Everybody else in the population isn’t necessarily. But all I know, my wife is alive 22 years later, and I’m very grateful for the dear lady, Cory SerVaas, who was in here with her mammogram. She said, “Dede,” you remember? TERRY MEEUWSEN: I remember. Dr. SerVaas. PAT ROBERTSON: And so, Dede, to accommodate Cory, got a mammogram. And she’s alive. And I thank God for it. It didn’t spread. The cancer was taken care of. And that’s the way it is. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Early detection. PAT ROBERTSON: Early detection. It’s very, very important. Well, Lee Webb has the rest of our top stories from the CBN Newsroom. Lee. HATE LEE WEBB: Pat, Christian leaders are warning that parts of the Bible could soon be considered hate speech, the parts condemning homosexuality. That led to a protest against a new hate crimes law outside the nation’s justice department. Paul Strand was there. PAUL STRAND: More than a dozen Christian leaders gathered outside the Justice Department Monday to protest the new hate crimes law. Backers of that law, like these counter protestors, say it’s meant to protect gays and other minorities from violence. But the Christian protestors warn it will be used eventually to silence any criticism of homosexuality, even pastors preaching scriptures that condemn homosexual acts. Protest organizers describe one possible way. Dr. Rick Scarborough (Vision America Action): If the speech that I conduct incites someone to violence or can be construed to having incited them to violence, then I can be prosecuted as aiding and abetting that crime. Dr. Gary Cass (Christian Anti-Defamation Commission): The minister would be as guilty as the person who actually perpetrates the crime, and that’s unprecedented in American history. Dr. Rick Scarborough: Now, that will throw a chill on the preaching of the Gospel across this nation. PAUL STRAND: Those who support the hate crime law say there is no way it could ever be used to discriminate against Christians or whose who preach the Gospel, but a man here from Britain came to warn that’s what’s next for America. Barrister Paul Diamond says British Christians have even been arrested for inciting violence, because they whipped others up into attacking them, the Christians. Paul Diamond (Christian Legal Centre): We have Christians arrested for challenging Mohammed’s status as the final prophet. We have a high court judge who has actually ruled—it’s now gone into the court of appeal—that Christianity is discriminatory and therefore an employer doesn’t have to employ Christians. PAUL STRAND: The Christian protestors read scriptures and preached short sermons condemning homosexuality. They believe the Justice Department could well someday soon arrest them for just such preaching. Paul Strand, CBN News, reporting from the Justice Department. LEE WEBB: Pat, are you satisfied with the exceptions they’ve built into the current law? PAT ROBERTSON: No, I’m not. They made such similar promises in Great Britain, and you see what’s happening over there. I had lunch with Loren Cunningham yesterday. He’s the head of YWAM. He’s a missionary pioneer with missionaries all over the world, and he said the time is coming of great persecution. And he told of one of his workers who had been shot just within the last few days, that they killed him. And he thinks that there is going to be a time of persecution against Christians. I don’t like to be on the side of those who are claiming that they’re going to be put in the corner, but unless Christians do something spiritually in a hurry, they’re going to be the victims of terrific persecution. In Canada, for example, Canada, they had a homosexual they put in charge of the broadcast authority, and it’s my understanding that the law indicates that if somebody is guilty of so-called hate speech, a 500,000 dollar fine against the station that carries that speech. So the hate speech would be “homosexuality is a sin.” The Bible says it is. So that is enough. You preach the Bible. But I guess we’re going to strictly going to have to talk about positive things and not criticize anybody. But the truth is, there are people who are in error, and if you love them, you want to get them out of error. But these laws will say you can’t do that. You cannot do that. And it’s a dangerous precedent. It has a chilling effect on free speech. And ladies and gentlemen, those of you of the Christian faith, you’d better get ready for some stuff that’s coming down the road, because it will be there, and it’s starting in Europe. And it’s now here in the United States, and it will get worse. Lee. CHINA LEE WEBB: Pat, President Obama and Chinese President Hu Jintao promised to tackle key global issues today in Beijing, like climate change and nuclear disarmament, but they made no real agreements. China has strengthened its military in recent years. But as George Thomas reports, that doesn’t necessarily mean the Chinese want to be a military superpower. GEORGE THOMAS: It was China's largest-ever military parade. More than 100,000 people gathered on Beijing's famous Tiananmen Square and millions more via television, to celebrate 60 years of communist rule. For Xie Lin and his family, it was a symbol of China's growing military and economic might. Wang Xinyu (Resident of Beijing): It was a glorious moment filled with so much pride to see how far we've come. GEORGE THOMAS: From that moment on October 1, 1949 when the communists took control to today. Xie Lin (Resident of Beijing): We could have never imagined the China of today 60 years later. GEORGE THOMAS: A nation that boasts the world's third largest economy thanks in part to young couples like Xie Lin, who are spending like never before. And with that growing economic clout, the President will use his trip this week to remind the Chinese people that they have to be a responsible stakeholder on the global stage. Zhang Haibin (Peking University): We have a responsibility to step up to the plate and tackle some of the big challenges facing the globe. GEORGE THOMAS: President Obama wants China to engage in international issues from the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan to North Korea and Iran's nuclear ambitions. But that's easier said than done. People here are not interested in leading. Man: It's too early for us to be considered a global leader. We have so much of our own national interests and problems to attend to. GEORGE THOMAS: Many we spoke with insisted that China is still a developing nation and should be treated as one. Man: People in the countryside are still very poor. We have a long way to bridge the gap between the rich and poor. GEORGE THOMAS: And when asked whether China should send troops to help in Iraq and Afghanistan? Woman: These are not our wars. This is America’s responsibility. GEORGE THOMAS: Xin Lie, who is searching this day for the latest Nokia phone, is worried about America's efforts to thrust his country prematurely onto the international stage. Xin Lie: We love all the attention we are getting, but we want to spend our time instead on peaceful efforts. We don't care about intervening in other people's business. GEORGE THOMAS: George Thomas, CBN News, Beijing. LEE WEBB: So, Pat, what is China? A developing nation or a superpower? PAT ROBERTSON: Well, it’s both. It’s a developing nation. It’s essentially a third world country. There is desperate poverty in great pockets all over China, especially in the rural areas. There are several hundred million people that are below the poverty line. And their whole village, it’s about 25,000 villages or so that the people are very poor. So China isn’t about to start some war of aggression. I think that business about scaring people is done by those who don’t have any knowledge of China. China does not want to get involved in international adventures. It just doesn’t want to do it. It does, however, wish to have as much of the resources of the world as possible to meet their domestic demands. And let’s face it, they’re sitting on two trillion dollars of our dollars, and they’ve got to do something with them. So they are a first world economic power that glosses over the underlying poverty. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, and that economic prosperity has gotten them a lot of attention internationally. PAT ROBERTSON: Oh, my, yes. TERRY MEEUWSEN: So why go to war? PAT ROBERTSON: Terry, they’re incredible, though. When you talk to them, you can’t believe what they do. The scale of their activity just certainly boggles the mind. And those people in charge of China have very broad vision. And it seems like to me that they are going to be the world’s leader in a few years. There is no question about it. And the good news, they’re tending toward Christianity. And they could become the largest Christian nation on the face of the earth. And that is good news. TERRY MEEUWSEN: For them as well. PAT ROBERTSON: For them, especially. For all of us. Lee. RIFQA LEE WEBB: Rifqa Bary's custody battle is now in the hands of the Columbus, Ohio court system. She will make her first court appearance there next month. The 17-year-old ran away from her home after her Muslim parents discovered she had become a Christian. Her story has gained international attention, and Monday, supporters filled the Columbus court house square to make sure it is not forgotten. Efrem Graham is there with more. Woman: We are here for freedom of religion. EFREM GRAHAM: More than 100 people filled the square outside the Columbus Juvenile Court to show support for Rifqa Bary, a 17-year-old Christian most have never met. Nonie Darwish traveled from Los Angeles. Nonie Darwish (Former Muslims United): Rifqa has awakened a lot of us who left Islam and became Christians. And we are going to see more and more Rifqa Barys if we don't do something about it. EFREM GRAHAM: Many former Muslims in the crowd want the world to know Rifqa's fears are real. Nabeel Qureshi faced it personally since becoming a Christian in 2005. Nabeel Qureshi (Former Muslim): It wasn’t even a few months before I had received my first death threat, and it wasn't an anonymous one either. It was on my car. So I knew someone didn't want me alive, knew where I live. And I was worried. Jamal Jivanjee (Rifqa’s Friend): I pray for Columbus. I just pray that we would wake, get out of bed. EFREM GRAHAM: Jamal Jivanjee is among the few who know Rifqa and her story firsthand. He met her when he and his family lived in Columbus, and it is her testimony that motivated him to push for the rally even after the day's court hearing was cancelled. Man: Several years ago in the seventh grade, some girl decided to follow Jesus with her entire life. And then when she was confronted on it in the face of death that she would not deny her faith in Jesus, and that’s why we’re here today. EFREM GRAHAM: Now that Rifqa Bary's legal battle is playing out here in Columbus, Ohio, supporters say they want to make sure the spotlight is never taken off her case. James Lafferty (Virginia Anti-Sharia Task Force): We are going to be back. This is not a one shot deal. And we are going to continue to watch her case and just make sure that she is protected. EFREM GRAHAM: They are prepared to return to rally outside the court three days before Christmas. That’s when Rifqa Bary's next court hearing is scheduled. Efrem Graham, CBN News, Columbus, Ohio. UK SOCIAL WORKERS LEE WEBB: Government health and safety inspectors in Britain will soon have unprecedented access to families in their homes. The London Sunday Times reports the workers will be visiting homes to make sure parents are protecting their children from household accidents. In some cases, they will even supply and install safety equipment like smoke alarms, stair gates and oven guards. The new guidelines have been written up by the National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence in the UK. It’s also called NICE. But critics say the new rules are “intrusive” and proof of a “creeping nanny state.” What do you think, Pat? PAT ROBERTSON: Well, didn’t CS Lewis write a fictional book about a dominant government agency that was called NICE? And here, 20, 30, 40 years later, the government is picking up on that and has got a thing called NICE? NICE is here to help you? TERRY MEEUWSEN: It’s just so blatant. It’s hard to believe that people are putting up with it. PAT ROBERTSON: You wonder, this is a free nation. This is one of the cradles of liberty. And what is happening? Brits, wake up. You have nothing to lose but your chains. Terry. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, coming up, a new brand of public schools. They’re taking the class out of the classroom. Woman: Could you take me step by step how you solve this? TERRY MEEUWSEN: We’ll show you why these online schools may be the future of education, so stay with us. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * GRAPHIC: THE MALE CODE LEE WEBB: Coming up later, decipher the male code and get the five-day plan to living happily ever after. * * * GRAPHIC: RUTHLESS DICTATOR LEE WEBB: Plus, a young politician climbs through the ranks . . . . Man: I wanted to rule the people. LEE WEBB: . . . . by any means necessary. Man: I had a lot of henchmen who were terrible killers. LEE WEBB: Guns couldn’t stop him. Man: They shot at me while I was going in my jeep, but the bullets did not harm me. LEE WEBB: Find out what did, on today’s 700 Club. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 1: SWISS AMERICA Spokesman: Seventy-seven million baby boomers hope to retire in the next ten to 20 years, and just three percent will be financially independent. But Uncle Sam wants to help you put gold into your retirement plan by creating a self-directed Precious Metal IRA. There are no tax penalties or new contributions needed to convert an existing IRA or other retirement fund into gold. Pat Boone: This is Pat Boone to tell you about Swiss America’s three-step plan for successful gold investing. First, call Swiss America. Request their free book, materials, and rare opportunity CD. Second, review the materials and learn why gold has more than doubled in the last five years and why experts say it may double again. And third, earn a return through growth of your gold investment. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * NEXT DAY PROMO GRAPHIC: SKINNY SEASON LEE WEBB: Tomorrow on Skinny Wednesday, the holidays are almost here. Find out how to feast without putting on fat. * * * GRAPHIC: UNLIKELY CHAMP LEE WEBB: Plus . . . . Man: I kind of came into this league they would say the hard way. LEE WEBB: How this NFL reject became a two-time Super Bowl champ. * * * GRAPHIC: CURED LEE WEBB: And then . . . . Man: It’s possible I could have died from it. LEE WEBB: Doctors diagnosed his problem. Television cured it. Find out how, tomorrow on The 700 Club. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: The computer age. Doesn’t it drive you crazy when everybody, you’re talking to them, and they’re doing this all the time? They’ve got a Blackberry or they’ve got a something. TERRY MEEUWSEN: I actually say, “Can we put that down while we talk with each other?” PAT ROBERTSON: Oh, it’s horrible. Well, kids turn to their computers for everything. They go shopping, read the latest headlines, even hang out with their friends online. Well, David Brody brings us this look at how some schools are reaching this tech-savvy generation. FOCUS: ONLINE CHARTER SCHOOLS Group: Pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America . . . . DAVID BRODY: This is how each school day starts out for the Wonacott family in Boise, Idaho. Inside, mom helps teach her kids. Mother: Good. Remember where those were. Excellent. DAVID BRODY: Outside, the backyard swing serves as recess. Father: Do you guys want tomatoes? DAVID BRODY: And Dad mans the cafeteria. Twenty minutes down the road, their classmates, the Comstock family, go through their routine as well. Emily puts away the dishes. Older sis, Olivia, practices piano. While these situations look like home schooling, they're not. These families are actually going to a public charter school without leaving the house. The computer serves as the center of their education universe. These online charter schools are called virtual academies, and they are becoming more and more popular across America. As a matter of fact, they're really popular here in Idaho. More students are enrolled here in this state per capita than any other state in the country. The movement is growing, tens of thousands of children enrolled in these online classrooms across the country. The Obama Administration is pushing charter schools by using federal money as an enticement to states that expand the program. Ron Packard is CEO of the K12 online curriculum program. Ron Packard (K12 CEO): We built a curriculum that would meet or exceed the most rigorous of any state standards. So the idea for a parent who is doing this is you don't need to worry about what's being taught, because we've had the nation's experts build the best academic curriculum that would match what the best private schools or public schools in the country do. DAVID BRODY: So how does this all work? Well, it starts with a bunch of heavy boxes. If you sign up, you get a computer, books, lab experiments and, hey, even some instruments for music class. It's all free and delivered directly to your door. Since this is a public school, attendance is mandatory. You have to clock in. Public online charter school students still have to meet state requirements and take those pesky standardized exams. And maybe most importantly, the teacher-guided curriculum requires that the students score at least 80 percent on a unit before they can move on. That’s a big advantage over home schooling for these moms. Michelle Wonacott (Virtual Academy Mom): Well, I like having my kids accountable, too, to somebody other than me, because then I'm not the bad guy all the time. I'm not the mean mom and the mean teacher. I can say to them, “If you have an issue, if you have a problem, talk to your teacher.” Patsy Comstock (Virtual Academy Mom): I didn't really feel prepared for that. I didn't think I could come up with all the material and make sure I was doing a good job. DAVID BRODY: And Patsy’s daughter Emily likes to have both mom and a professional teacher. Emily Comstock (Virtual Academy Student): It's nice to have someone teaching you other than your mom, because your teaching style might get a little repetitive, so it's nice to have a range. DAVID BRODY: So when one of the students has a question for the teacher, no problem. They just click the “raise your hand” icon in the chat room. And where is the teacher? Online, of course, and in her bedroom. Heather McKenna: And could you take me step by step how you solve this? DAVID BRODY: Heather McKenna teaches with the Idaho Virtual Academy. Heather McKenna (Idaho Virtual Academy Teacher): My day is basically conference calls. I have to contact each of my families at least once a month. DAVID BRODY: She plays a critical role not just for students, but parents as well. Heather McKenna: I'm the encouragement. I give them the tips and tricks that I've learned along the way as a parent and as a teacher to help them succeed. DAVID BRODY: There's no doubt this job requires parental involvement. We witnessed a lot of back and forth between rooms for poor mom. But the pluses seem to outweigh the minuses. For example, as an online public school, you can get flexibility in the curriculum. That's important to devoted Catholics like the Wonacotts. Michelle Wonacott: Sometimes when we'll hit on a particular history lesson that mentions something to do with Christianity historically, sometimes I can expand on that a little bit more and explain how our faith fits into that part of history. Heather McKenna: Yes, you need to do our curriculum, but, for instance, I had a parent call the other day that said, “Listen, I really don't like that Jack and the Beanstalk book. It's really against what my kids are really wanting. I think it's too scary.” And I said, “Great. Do something else.” DAVID BRODY: There are all sorts of reasons parents decide to go this route. For example, the Comstocks put Olivia in the Virtual Academy program because she has severe peanut allergies, and a traditional classroom posed challenges. Others range from being bullied at school to having a learning disability. And it all comes back to flexibility. Ron Packard: The school never goes to sleep. It's 24/7, so you can do it anytime. Kids that have, for example, ADD, they might be doing it a half hour, going to do something else, and then coming back to school. DAVID BRODY: The experience isn't totally online. Families like the Comstocks and the Wonacotts get together every week with other families from the program. Patsy Comstock: We have a little joke in our co-op that it's not the children who need to be socialized. It's the moms, because you're in your home all day with your children. DAVID BRODY: And that environment can sure lead to a lot of time outs and reflective contemplation. Just ask Emily. Emily Comstock: We might go on the porch and sit down and breathe and kind of get all of our frustrations out. DAVID BRODY: Speaking of breathing, take a deep breath, because online charter schools are set to expand even more in the future. David Brody, CBN News, reporting from Boise, Idaho. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: It’s amazing. Well, it’s happening in higher education. Online learning is a big thing, Harvard and all the way down the line. It’s an accepted way. Adults, they want to work and they want to get a degree. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Lots of adults are doing this. Yes. PAT ROBERTSON: Yes. TERRY MEEUWSEN: But for a young person, I think one of the pluses of this, I like the fact that you don’t move on unless you reach a certain level of accomplishment in something. And kids learn differently. They learn at different speeds. I think one of the pressures of the classroom for a child is that everybody is just kind of pushed through in a cattle-like mode. It’s difficult. PAT ROBERTSON: When they get through, they can’t read. They can’t write. And this one, apparently they can. And it’s great. TERRY MEEUWSEN: It really is. PAT ROBERTSON: But it takes away certain socialization, whatever that is. Getting bullied is an important part of growing up. TERRY MEEUWSEN: I’m not sure about that. And listen to that young girl. She doesn’t look like she needs any socialization skills. I think she’s doing pretty well. PAT ROBERTSON: All right. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, coming up, here is a question for you. What’s the difference between your husband and a seal? GRAPHIC: HAVE A NEW HUSBAND Well, Dr. Kevin Leman says not so much. He’ll tell you why, after this. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 2: SKIN MEDICA Spokeswoman: Notice anything? No? That’s the idea. I have unwanted facial hair. 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Announcer: For more information and a free rebate of up to 60 dollars, call or go online now. Woman: It’s the best decision I ever made. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, here is the secret to understanding your man: believe it or not, he wants to be a good husband. He wants to please you. But as Dr. Kevin Leman says, there is a catch. He just doesn’t know how. SET-UP PIECE DEBBIE WHITE: Bestselling author and psychologist Dr. Kevin Leman says there isn’t a woman on this earth who hasn’t wanted at one time or another to trade in her husband for a new one. Dr. Leman says the good news is you don’t need to trade your husband in for a newer model. All he needs is a little tune up. He says women can change their men for the better if they do it the right way. In his new book, Have a New Husband by Friday, Dr. Leman offers a five-day game plan to help women reclaim their “happily ever after.” * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * GUEST: DR. KEVIN LEMAN TERRY MEEUWSEN: Please welcome back to The 700 Club the author of the new book, love the title, Have a New Husband by Friday, Dr. Kevin Leman. I’m sure it’s going out of the store in droves. Dr. Kevin Leman: Yes, it is, I’m glad to say. We had Have a New Kid by Friday. It hit the New York Times bestseller list. They say this one is going to do the same. So we’ll see. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, husbands, you’ll be able to retaliate shortly. I’m sure there’s one . . . . Dr. Kevin Leman: But listen, you’ve got to understand this. This is not a Cash for Clunkers program, okay. We’re not talking about trading your husband in. TERRY MEEUWSEN: That’s right. Well, we talked about this right before going to break. Tell us, how is it that husbands are like seals? Dr. Kevin Leman: Well, husbands are like seals, because all you have to do is throw them a one pound fish or a three pound fish once in a while. Out in Monterey, California, there are these huge rocks. And out there sit those seals. And your husband, quite frankly, is like one of them. And when you say something nice about him, especially in front of other people, Terry, he’ll take his little flippers, and he’ll bang them together. And if you throw him a ball, he’ll balance it on his nose. He’ll do anything. So men want to please their wives, but you make it difficult, because you’re so weird. TERRY MEEUWSEN: If it’s so simple, why is it so difficult? Dr. Kevin Leman: Well, example. We’re driving home from dinner, and my wife turns to me and says, “Honey, do you want to stop for ice cream?” I said, “No.” And I keep driving. Within ten seconds, I look over there, Terry, tears streaming down her face. I go, “What is wrong with you?” “Nothing!” “What do you mean, nothing? You’re crying, aren’t you?” “I said there’s nothing wrong!” “What is wrong with you?” “I want to stop for ice cream!” So, when a woman says, “Honey . . . . TERRY MEEUWSEN: That’s not what she means. Dr. Kevin Leman: . . . . do you want to,” she’s not asking a question. And so most of us as men, “Hey, honey, just tell me what you want me to do, and I’ll do it.” So think of your husband as a four-year-old that shaves. He’s the simple one. Women are the complex ones. So if man has these needs of fulfillment, they need to be respected. They wanted to feel needed by you. We have no friends, Terry. We have no friends. Men will sit in a tree waiting for a deer to come over the hill, and his best friend is 100 yards away sitting in another tree. TERRY MEEUWSEN: And they wave at each other every three months, right? Dr. Kevin Leman: Oh, yes. And we do our nails, but we do them at a red light, with our front teeth. So, if you didn’t think God was a humorist when He came up with this one, “and the two shall become one,” that’s one of the funniest things in all of God’s Word. It really is. It’s a commandment, but there is humor in it, because God made us so different. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Yes. Dr. Kevin Leman: So women need to get behind a man’s eyes and see how he sees life, as men have to get behind their wives’ eyes and see how they see life. TERRY MEEUWSEN: So you talk about something called the male code. Discuss that. Dr. Kevin Leman: Well, you be a man for just a second, okay. TERRY MEEUWSEN: I’ll try. Dr. Kevin Leman: And here is the punch bowl, and we don’t know each other. And I come to the punch bowl, and I’m going to get myself a cup of punch and so are you. But watch what happens. You did good. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Thank you. Dr. Kevin Leman: You’re a good man. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Thank you. Dr. Kevin Leman: So, men, again . . . . TERRY MEEUWSEN: They’re nonverbal. Dr. Kevin Leman: The Wednesday part of this book is, ladies, think about what you’re going to say. Now, divide it by ten. So men want the USA Today version. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Yes. Dr. Kevin Leman: We specialize in arms length relationships. But we don’t want an arms length relationship with the one we love, do we? We want to be close. And again, we have no friends. So, what happens? Once a woman has, what do you call them? Children. Children. Once those kids come along, those little suckers will drain every bit of energy out of the young mom, and she’s too pooped to whoop, to put it bluntly. And the average marriage lasts seven years, then you’re done. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Yes. Dr. Kevin Leman: So if women are so good at relationships, which they are. They’re relationship wise. They hug anything. And kiss thin air. They miss. I never understand why. By the way, the advice in this book is . . . . TERRY MEEUWSEN: Because you put your lipstick on someone’s cheek if you don’t miss. I mean, come on. Dr. Kevin Leman: Oh, is that it? Oh, that’s it. Yes. But peck your girlfriend. Kiss your husband. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Okay. Dr. Kevin Leman: In all the years I’ve been at this, I’ve never had a couple come in and say, “Leman, we’ve had a great sex life, but we’re about to get a divorce.” I’ve never heard that once, Terry. So tuning in to this seal, this four-year-old that shaves, is really simpler than you think it is. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, and as I was reading your book, I thought, you’re right, that these are simple truths that we need to know about each other, but there’s a lot of compromise involved, isn’t there? Dr. Kevin Leman: Absolutely, as a husband. I wish someone would have sat me down and said, “You know what, Leman? In marriage, you’re going to pick up vomit. You’re going to pick up diarrhea. You’re going to go to Walgreens and get a box of those things.” And by the way, you notice there are the light days. There are the heavy days. There are no medium days. I’ve been there. I’ve bought them, with snaps, swivels, rebar, without rebar. It’s all part of being a married man. TERRY MEEUWSEN: That’s right. Dr. Kevin Leman: Do I look happy? Take a look. TERRY MEEUWSEN: You say that a wife needs to tell her husband something she wants him to do once and only once. Dr. Kevin Leman: Yes. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Why? Dr. Kevin Leman: There are some corollaries here in Have a New Kid by Friday and Have a New Husband by Friday. A woman will ask a man to do something. And by the way, you’re so smart never to ask your husband why. That shuts down communication. Or the most feared thing is, “Honey, we need to talk.” TERRY MEEUWSEN: Yes, that’s true. Dr. Kevin Leman: We don’t ever want to hear that, because that means we have nothing to say. You want to tell us something. So getting behind a man’s eyes and just realizing that a man will think things through before he gives you an answer. And lots of times, a woman will come, as my wife will do, Mrs. Uppington, who I dedicated the book to, and she’ll say, “Lemie, I asked you a question.” And I’ll say, “Hey, I’m thinking about it.” And, by the way, the other thing about men and thinking, “Oh, honey, what are you thinking about?” “Nothing.” Your husband is capable of thinking about nothing, trust me. TERRY MEEUWSEN: And does it well. Dr. Kevin Leman: Yes, so we ought to be able to make it in marriage, and marriages ought to be joyful. But take a look around. TERRY MEEUWSEN: I can tell that you and your wife have fun together. Dr. Kevin Leman: We do have fun. The whole Leman family has fun. I was talking to the producers before the show, and we’ve got five kids who love each other and love us, and all of them love the Lord. It couldn’t be better than that. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Having fun you can’t do until you’ve decided that you’re going to compromise, love each other, be friends with each other. It’s all in here. It’s called Have a New Husband by Friday. It’s for husbands and wives, and it’s available wherever books are sold. Thank you. It’s always so much fun to have you here. [barks like a seal] I know. You passed the test. Dr. Kevin Leman: Thank you. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Pat, over to you. PAT ROBERTSON: Thanks, Terry. Well, still ahead, a brutal dictator strikes fear into the hearts of his enemies and his friends. Woman: Sometimes he used to put his gun on me. And he used to beat me very much. He was a very cruel young man. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, see the rise and fall of a ruthless tyrant, later on today’s 700 Club. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 3: CANCER CENTER Laura Brokow: The doctor came in. I was still waking up from anesthesia. He leaned over my bed and he said, “Laura, you have cancer,” and he walked out of the room. The first thought is, “What’s going to happen to my children?” I knew I was ready to fight this, and I just wanted this cancer out of me. 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MICHAEL VIJAYKUMAR ANDREW KNOX: Michael Vijaykumar was hated and feared in India. He was a ruthless political dictator who ascended to power through bribery, intimidation and murder. Michael’s parents were Christians, but he rejected their faith early in life. Michael Vijaykumar: As a child, I used to think that Jesus was a low-caste God, and He didn’t have the strength. And that’s why He died on the cross. ANDREW KNOX: As a young man, Michael was surrounded by people who were influential in politics, and he envied their wealth and power. Michael Vijaykumar: I wanted to become a minister in the government. I wanted to rule the people. That was my ambition in life. So I entered into politics and became a very cruel factionalist. ANDREW KNOX: He set up his political fiefdom in the area of Andrah Pradesh and ruled it like a tyrant. His cruelty knew no bounds. He was surrounded by an entourage of bodyguards who carried out his ruthless commands to squelch opposition. Michael Vijaykumar: I had a lot of henchmen who were terrible killers. They were murderers. They would do anything if I tell them to do it. And I used them to kill my enemies. ANDREW KNOX: On many occasions, his opponents made attempts on his life, but none were successful. They tried poisoning his food and placing explosives in his path. But in every instance, Michael walked away unharmed. Michael Vijaykumar: On another occasion, they shot at me while I was going in my jeep. The bullets pierced through the front of my jeep, but the bullets did not harm me. ANDREW KNOX: He eventually obtained the power and wealth he desired, but he still wasn’t satisfied. He became addicted to drugs and alcohol, which fueled his angry temperament. Even his wife, Pushba, and his children didn’t escape his wrath. Pushba: Sometimes he used to put his gun to me and even on my children. And he used to beat me very much. He was a very cruel man. ANDREW KNOX: All the while, Pushba, who was a Christian, continued to believe her husband would change. Pushba: Every day I used to pray for him. Actually it was very difficult for me, but God gave me patience. ANDREW KNOX: Michael’s drug and alcohol use increased. Eventually he needed sedatives to sleep each night. Even though he feared death, he tried to take his own life several times. Michael Vijaykumar: I think I was haunted by the devil. And there was a lot of trouble to sleep. I did not have peace, and something wrong went inside my brain. I did try to commit suicide many times. ANDREW KNOX: By 1993, the local police constable had a vendetta against Michael, so he fled the area and settled in Chennai. For the first time, he examined his life. Michael Vijaykumar: I was sitting under a tree on that day, and I remember I just cried out in a helpless situation, thinking, “What has happened to me? What is my life?” And I started crying. ANDREW KNOX: Also in Chennai, he saw how true Christians lived. Michael Vijaykumar: And they were not troubled like I was. So when I observed their life, I thought that something was very good in them. ANDREW KNOX: One Sunday morning, Pushba took her husband to the elders of the laymen’s evangelical fellowship in Chennai and asked them to pray for him. Michael Vijaykumar: When I was going there, I used to think, “Even if they take me out of the city and stone me to death, there is no forgiveness for me.” That was my thinking. ANDREW KNOX: Michael stayed for the service that day and the elders laid hands on him. Michael Vijaykumar: But God’s servants told me that Jesus could forgive my sins and that God loves me and that God would speak to me. I believed what they said to me. ANDREW KNOX: Michael then asked if there was a room where he could go to pray. Michael Vijaykumar: Though I did not know how to pray, I pleaded to the Lord, “Will you save a sinner like me? Will you speak to me?” It was a miracle of my life. God spoke to me in that room. ANDREW KNOX: He spent days in fasting and prayer. Michael Vijaykumar: When God started speaking to me and when I realized that He is the true God, I was awake around ten o’clock in the night. The suicide mentality, the cruel mentality, at one instance, this big load came out of my head, and the peace of God came into me. ANDREW KNOX: Although he risked imprisonment and possible murder, Michael went back to Andrah Pradesh and personally spoke to over 200 people, asking them to forgive him. Michael Vijaykumar: The people, they did forgive me. It was a real miracle of God. Not only did they forgive me, they felt happy that I was a changed man. ANDREW KNOX: Many miracles followed Michael’s salvation. Michael Vijaykumar: The wife of my main enemy who wanted to kill me, she was in the hospital with severe cancer. I went to the hospital and prayed for her, and God healed her of that disease. ANDREW KNOX: Incredibly, Michael was even given a pardon for his previous crimes. Michael Vijaykumar: The government removed the court cases which were pending on me. I don’t know how that happened, but suddenly it happened. They withdrew all the cases on me, all the cases. ANDREW KNOX: Soon after that, Michael started traveling the world to share his story. Michael Vijaykumar: I started praying much. I started witnessing to people, and many people started accepting the Lord Jesus Christ. I once asked the Lord, “I have grieved you so much. How can I make you happy?” And God said, “Through you, if one sinner is converted, that will make Me happy.” That is my mission in life. That is my aim: to make God happy. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT MINISTERS PAT ROBERTSON: Amazing. How do you make God happy? How do you make Him happy? Well, there is one way that you can make God happy and that is to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, to believe that Jesus, who lived among us, was truly God’s Son and that He died for your sins and that He rose again that you might have everlasting life. That’s what makes God happy. And then for you, in His name, to tell others about what He has done for you. What an amazing story, a story of forgiveness. Whatever you’ve done, God will forgive it. You say, “But I murdered people.” God will forgive you. You say, “I blasphemed.” God will forgive you. “I’ve been involved in all kinds of sexual activities.” God will forgive you. “I’ve been taking drugs.” God will forgive you. “I’ve cursed my parents.” God will forgive you. There is no limit to how far His love will go. He will reach down to the lowest sinner. Wherever you are and whoever you are, God Almighty says, “I will forgive you. I will cleanse you, and I will make you part of My family.” Now, as we come closer to Thanksgiving, this is a time to give thanks to the Lord. And if you want Him, if you want this blessing in your life, I want you right now to bow your head and to receive the Lord Jesus as your Savior. And let Him wash you and cleanse you and take away all the sin that you’ve committed. You want to do that? Think back in your life the stuff you’ve done. You know you’re ashamed of it. You don’t have to be ashamed anymore. As far as the east is from the west, that’s how far He’ll take your sin from you. Now, I’m going to lead you in a prayer, and I want you to pray this prayer with me, wherever you are. Don’t be afraid. Don’t be ashamed, because God Almighty loves you. Now, pray these words. Bow your head. These words: “Lord Jesus Christ.” That’s right. Pray with me. “Lord Jesus Christ, I’m a sinner. You know the things that I have done, things that are shameful, things that I’m ashamed of. But, Lord, I bring them to you, all of my sins. And I ask your forgiveness, because I know that you died on the cross for my sins and that you rose again that I might have everlasting life. And so, Lord Jesus, right now, I open my heart to you and ask you to come in. Come into my heart, Lord Jesus. Live your life in me, and from this moment on, I am yours. Thank you, Lord, that you’ve heard my prayer. And thank you, Lord, that you’ve come into my heart.” Now, Father, for those who prayed with me, may the anointing of the Holy Spirit rest upon them, in Jesus’ name. Amen. And amen. Now, wherever you are, if you prayed with me, what an important prayer. GRAPHIC: 1-800-759-0700 CBN.COM All Heaven is rejoicing at the decision you just made. And what I’m going to ask you to do is to go to your telephone and give us a call and tell us about it. And as you do, I want to give you a gift. 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ANDREW KNOX: Recently, Hui began to slow down and no one could figure out why. This is the school’s principal, Mrs. Yang. Mrs. Yang: Then he got a really bad stomachache, and he was in the bathroom all night. I took him to see the doctor, and he just said Hui had a problem eating too much. ANDREW KNOX: The doctor prescribed some medicine, but it didn’t help. Then the principal noticed that other children were starting to have the same symptoms. Mrs. Yang: I kept on thinking about how much water Hui drinks. So I began to wonder if something might be wrong with the water. I took a sample of the water to the lab. The results showed that the groundwater was polluted. That was causing the children to develop kidney and gallstones. ANDREW KNOX: The principal realized the school needed to begin filtering the water they drank, but they had no extra money to do it. Mrs. Yang’s budget barely covered the school’s basic bills. She didn’t know what to do, so she prayed. Then a friend told her about CBN. Mrs. Yang: The CBN staff came out to our school and looked into all of the conditions. They decided to provide a water filtration system for us. ANDREW KNOX: And that proved to be exactly what the kids needed. Now, they’re all healthy again, and Hui is back up and running. Hui: I like the water now. It tastes much better. ANDREW KNOX: And to help the children learn more about God, CBN gave the kids a brand new TV set and copies of CBN’s Superbook series. Hui and his classmates love to watch. Hui: I like David. He loves God and is very brave. I want to be like David. Mrs. Yang: I thank God for the love that CBN has for these kids. You have brought health and hope to them. 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But those buzzards—I can’t believe it. TERRY MEEUWSEN: I know. It’s strange. PAT ROBERTSON: I don’t think the guy ought to shoot the thing in the air. He ought to shoot it at the buzzards. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Okay. PAT ROBERTSON: He’s wasting his bullets. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Send those cards and letters to Pat Robertson. Yes. Okay. PAT ROBERTSON: Go ahead. What’s next? TERRY MEEUWSEN: This is Theresa, who says . . . . . PAT ROBERTSON: Maybe buzzards are protected. I don’t know. Maybe you can’t shoot them. TERRY MEEUWSEN: You’ll find out shortly, I’m sure. PAT ROBERTSON: Thank you. All right. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Theresa says, “Dear Pat, I feel that what is happening with our economy seems to be pushing people closer to the edge. Even in our local news, I’m seeing more murders, suicides and random acts of violence than ever before. I’d like to know if you think these events could pertain to what is called the ‘end times?’ Do you anticipate seeing more of these types of activities happening in the future?” PAT ROBERTSON: I think we have gotten ourselves a culture of death. Abortion, reckless abortion, all kinds of violence against the unborn that is being perpetrated. TERRY MEEUWSEN: A lot of anger in our culture. PAT ROBERTSON: And there’s anger, because the natural man doesn’t have a knowledge of God. The natural man is a rebel. And the spirit of the natural man, when linked up with the spirit of Satan, Satan is a murderer. And that’s what we’re seeing. You loose that into society, and you pay the price. We’ve got to close. That’s all the time. We leave you with these words from Psalms, . . . . GRAPHIC: Psalm 136:1 “Give thanks to the Lord for He is good. His love endures forever.” (NIV) . . . . “Give thanks to the Lord, for He is good. His love endures forever.” We’ll see you tomorrow. Bye, bye. 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