The 700 Club: September 25, 2009

UnderWing Transcripts PO Box 16282 Clearwater, Florida 33766 540 455-2333 / UnderWing@underwingtranscripts.com ________________________________________ The 700 Club Daily Broadcast Friday, September 25, 2009 PAT ROBERTSON: Well, welcome to The 700 Club. The government has now stopped four, count them, four terrorist plots in the last two months. And one of those could have been the worst attack on America since 9/11. KRISTI WATTS: I tell you, Pat, it is so scary, but even though the attacks have been prevented, the danger may not be over just yet. Reporter John Jessup has that story. PLOTS JOHN JESSUP: In New York, 24-year-old Afghan immigrant Najibullah Zazi, charged with conspiracy to use weapons of mass destruction. More charges could follow in Denver. Richard Clarke (Former National Security Officer): I think this is as close as we have come since 9/11 to having a major terrorist attack on US territory. JOHN JESSUP: In addition to the New York plot, in Springfield, Illinois, 29-year-old Michael Finton, arrested after attempting to blow up a federal courthouse. In Dallas, 19-year-old Hosam Husein Smadi, arrested after trying to blow up a skyscraper. And in Quantico, Virginia, two North Carolina suspects remain under arrest for plotting to attack a Marine base. Intelligence officials have warned the next terror attack could be homegrown. And in Najibullah Zazi's case, his bomb making supplies came from unsuspecting places: beauty supply stores. Officials say Zazi bought large quantities of hydrogen peroxide and acetone, a flammable material used to remove nail polish. They're the supplies he needed for a homemade bomb recipe written by al Qaeda. Brad Garrett (Former FBI Special Agent): It's so readily available, and it flies under the radar when you purchase it. JOHN JESSUP: In Illinois, Michael Finton, a man who idolized American Taliban soldier, John Walker Lindh, used a cell phone to try and detonate a bomb in front of a federal courthouse. But the explosives were fake, sold to him by an undercover agent. Now the Muslim convert faces charges in the same building he tried to blow up. John Stafford (FBI): He talked about a number of different targets including the FBI building, the Decatur Police Department. JOHN JESSUP: The foiled plot by Hosam Husein Smadi to blow up a 60-story office tower in Dallas was also an FBI sting. Man: It's a crazy world, and these are crazy times, and there are a lot of crazy people out there. JOHN JESSUP: And although the plots were foiled, officials say the danger may not be over. Richard Clarke: I think until they find all the bombs and all the bomb-making material, until they find everybody who was in the cell or willing to be in the cell, we still have a big problem. JOHN JESSUP: Agents have some 20 suspects under 24-hour surveillance, all in an effort to keep breaking up these plots and preventing the murders America's enemies so desperately want to commit. John Jessup, CBN News, Washington. PAT ROBERTSON: Thanks, John. It’s a tough call, ladies and gentlemen. They only have to get through, succeed once. We have to block hundreds of attempts on our society, but we’re doing it. Congratulations to the FBI and the other counterterrorism forces. Now, we have a news analyst, a terrorism analyst, Erick Stakelbeck. He’s with us now from Washington. Erick, how many people are involved in this terrorism plot, do you think, that they have been catching? GRAPHIC: TERRORISM PLOTS ERICK STAKELBECK: Well, Pat, NYPD authorities told me on Wednesday when I was in New York City that they’re looking at as many as 24 suspects here. Now, three are already in custody, including, Pat, interestingly enough, an influential New York City imam. An Islamic religious leader has been arrested as part of this plot. It’s a very troubling signal. And from what authorities tell me, mass transit, subways, trains, buses, like we saw in London in 2005, like we saw in Madrid in 2004, were the likely targets here. And Najibullah Zazi, the ringleader of this alleged cell, had footage of Grand Central Station on his computer. PAT ROBERTSON: The people involved, the numbers of casualties would vastly dwarf 9/11, wouldn’t it? We’re talking about tens of thousands of people. ERICK STAKELBECK: Well, Pat, it is difficult to say right now. Actually, with so many suspects, it could have been a massive, massive style attack that could have killed hundreds, maybe thousands. Usually with these mass transit bombings, you’ll see casualties, which is bad enough. In London, we had 52 people killed. In Madrid in 2004 we had 200 people killed. But those cells were smaller. This cell apparently, according to some accounts, there were three groups of four men each who were looking to carry out these attacks, kind of reminiscent, Pat, of 9/11. We had the hijackers broken off into separate teams. So with that in mind, with just the sheer number of suspects involved, there could have very well been a great number of casualties, although I don’t know that it would have come near to the 3,000 that we saw on 9/11. PAT ROBERTSON: Has the FBI closed it up? Does it look like those cells are now inoperable? ERICK STAKELBECK: Well, attorney general Eric Holder says that the imminence of this threat has subsided. It was very imminent, but there are still 24 suspects at large, Pat. So the investigation is ongoing. I can tell you from being in New York City on Wednesday, I have never seen, since 9/11, I haven’t seen security in New York City so tight as it is right now. They’re on very, very high alert. PAT ROBERTSON: Erick Stakelbeck, thank you very much. ERICK STAKELBECK: Thank you, Pat. PAT ROBERTSON: George Thomas has the rest of our top stories from the CBN Newsroom. George, what do you have? IRAN 2ND NUCLEAR PLAN GEORGE THOMAS: Thank you, Pat. Hello, everyone. President Barack Obama and the leaders of France and Britain say Iran has a secret nuclear facility similar to this one to produce nuclear fuel. And they are demanding Iran open up the plant to international inspectors. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu told the UN the greatest threat facing the world is the marriage between religious fundamentalism and weapons of mass destruction. Benjamin Netanyahu (Israeli Prime Minister): The most urgent challenge facing this body today is to prevent the tyrants of Tehran from acquiring nuclear weapons. Are the members of the United Nations up to that challenge? GAILON TOTHEROH: Netanyahu says Iran’s nuclear weapons would be a threat for the whole world and not just Israel. MUSLIM PRAYER RALLY GEORGE THOMAS: Christians have a differing view on the huge Muslim prayer rally set for today on Capitol Hill. Patrick Mahoney of the Christian Defense Coalition says Christians must show they love the Muslim community and that the rally shows the greatness of America. Other leaders, like Tony Perkins of the Family Research Council, wonder if the Muslims are really praying for the wellbeing of America. But one of the rally’s organizers tells Fox News that, quote, “The purpose is Islamic unity, so we can display the beauty of Islam. And we want to let America know that we are here and we support the country.” We will have a full report on the rally on Monday’s 700 Club. G20 AND DOLLAR GEORGE THOMAS: The dollar could be even weaker after this weekend’s G-20 summit of leading economic powers in Pittsburgh. China has already called for a new global currency as an alternative to the dollar for international trade. But few analysts expect the dollar will actually be replaced any time soon. Instead, they believe the dollar will keep falling on the value over time on the international currency markets because of the economic policies of the United States and other countries. Pat, do you get a sense that the pressure from the Chinese, the Russians, the Indians is really going up as we continue to mismanage our economy here? PAT ROBERTSON: George, we’re living in a historic time as far as I can see. We no longer will be the leader of finance in the world. We have been ever since the Bretton Woods Accord at the end of World War II. Our dollar was considered next to gold, the prime source of wealth, and was relied upon as a reserve currency throughout the world. It won’t be anymore. The profligate policies of our leaders—and it’s not just Obama. It goes back to George Bush and his team as well—but the profligate policies which ignore the dollar ran up enormous debts. Our debt load might hit as high as 20, get this, 20 trillion dollars. And there’s no way we’re going to pay that off, and the world knows it. So the only way to pay it off is to inflate our currency. And so we’ll pay off with cheap dollars. But look out, ladies and gentlemen, for your own safety and your own financial security. The dollar just won’t be as good in the coming years. And right now, as a matter of fact, the world’s leaders are saying, “We aren’t going to accept the dollar as the reserve currency of the world.” It’s going to hurt. KRISTI WATTS: Well, Pat, you’ve mentioned several times throughout the program for months and months the value of gold. Should we start buying up gold rather than the dollar? PAT ROBERTSON: Oh, absolutely. KRISTI WATTS: Yes. PAT ROBERTSON: And other currencies, too. We at CBN, we put some of the reserves we’ve had into Australian dollars. They’re up about 20-some percent, 25 percent. We put them into Canadian dollars. Other countries, their currencies are so much better than the dollar. It’s a shame. Ronald Reagan used to tell the joke about the man in the hospital. He said, “How is your heart?” He said, “It’s as sound as the dollar.” He said the man fainted dead away when they told him that. Okay, what’s next? KRISTI WATTS: Okay, well, we’re going to switch gears a little bit, Pat. PAT ROBERTSON: And by the way, it’s Casual Friday. KRISTI WATTS: Well, you didn’t give me the memo about Casual Friday. I would have dressed down. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, you look so gorgeous. KRISTI WATTS: Well, good answer. PAT ROBERTSON: Okay. Well, anyhow. KRISTI WATTS: Anyhow, coming up, get a sneak peek at the state governor’s race that’s sweeping the nation and see why the Old Dominion has become the new political battleground. GRAPHIC: NEW BATTLEGROUND * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 1: CURVES Announcer: So you’ve finally decided that it’s the right time for you to lose weight. That’s great. 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Man: I left a go-go bar and was doing 85 miles an hour down the road and went to take a turn. KRISTI WATTS: A biker’s rebel lifestyle comes to a crashing end . . . . Man: I was headed for a big oak tree and a fire hydrant. KRISTI WATTS: . . . . on an empty country road. Man: The bike turned, and I catapulted. I almost went over a power line and landed on my feet and fell back, and had no feeling from my waist down. KRISTI WATTS: How this renegade dodged death. Man: I could not move my lower end. I was just laying there, and I flat lined. At Lee Memorial, I died. KRISTI WATTS: Next week on The 700 Club. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: Virginia has an interesting race. One of the candidates, a Republican, is a graduate of Regent University and a graduate of Notre Dame. He’s been the attorney general. His opponent is a gentleman named Creigh Deeds, who is a state senator from a little county in the western part of the state called Bath County. And Mr. Deeds, who was virtually unknown, has received 3.5 million dollars from outside interests, which is a record in Virginia. Never has that much money come in before, which means that the labor unions and the other interests around the country are looking at this race and saying the Democrat has got to beat the Republican. And the Republicans are saying, “No, no, this is our year, and this is going to show something.” So it’s been run on national issues, not just Virginia issues. It’s an extraordinary gubernatorial race with huge amounts of money involved. Well, the White House, needless to say, is closely watching the elections in both Virginia and New Jersey, because these races will be a referendum on the President himself and an indicator for upcoming national elections. Jennifer Wishon has the race in Virginia. FOCUS: VIRGINIA GOVERNOR’S RACE JENNIFER WISHON: A picture of Americana: marching bands and beauty queens mix with politicians each September in Buena Vista to become the epicenter of Virginia politics. Bob McDonnell: Good to see y’all. Hi, ma’am. Woman: Good to meet you. Bob McDonnell: Bob McDonnell, running for governor. JENNIFER WISHON: This year, Virginia and New Jersey are the only two states in the union electing a new governor. And no matter where you live, the results will likely have national implications. The Democrat running for Virginia’s highest office is state senator Creigh Deeds who often introduces himself on the stump as a country guy with four kids, four horses, five ponies and a donkey named Harry S. Truman. He’s hoping to ride into the governor’s mansion on the popularity of the commonwealth’s two Democratic senators and governor. But first, he’ll have to get past his longtime political foe: Republican and former attorney general Bob McDonnell, another family man with five children and a military background. McDonnell has beat Deeds statewide before, but this time Deeds has a powerful ally. As chairman of the Democratic National Committee, Virginia Governor Tim Kaine holds the number to a rich bank account. McDonnell is well funded, too. But this year, fat campaign chests may have little impact against headwinds blowing in from across the Potomac River. Just as this Labor Day parade here in Buena Vista is part of Virginia’s political fabric, so, too, is another tradition that political analysts depend on to help predict who will win, one that has less to do with the candidates and more with the messages voters want to send to the White House. Larry Sabato (Univ. of Virginia Center for Politics): Fundamentally, I do think it's related to President Obama and President Obama's controversial health care proposal, the fact that the economy still hasn't stabilized, at least in the view of many Americans. And all these things play into the vote. JENNIFER WISHON: It was a volatile summer. So much action from the President and Democratic controlled Congress turned out to be more change than some Americans could believe in. Voters turned out in droves to town hall meetings in August, many getting involved in emotional exchanges with their representatives. Kitty Tyree (Virginia Voter): Everybody is concerned about this health issue. Erika Anderson (Virginia Voter): I think it's very important. With five small kids, especially with health care and education, that more than ever I think it's important. JENNIFER WISHON: Both Deeds and McDonnell have received campaign donations from across the country, but McDonnell has received more. Out of a total of more than 14 million dollars raised, nearly half of McDonnell’s donations have come from out of state. Out of Deed’s nearly eight million raised, about a third are from outside the commonwealth. Man: This race will not be decided on money. It will be decided on the trends of politics, the wins that we see this year, national issues, state issues and the quality of the candidates. JENNIFER WISHON: Every four years since 1978, Virginians have elected governors from the party opposite of that represented in the White House. In New Jersey, it has been the same trend since 1989. Social conservatives are watching the Virginia race closely. Early in the race, Deeds used McDonnell’s prolife stance and voting record on abortion to paint him as out of touch with mainstream Virginians. Creigh Deeds ([D] Candidate for Virginia Governor): I talk about the social issues only to demonstrate to the world that these have his priorities over the past number of years. That’s going to inform what sort of governor he’s going to be. JENNIFER WISHON: McDonnell made national news when a thesis he wrote in his 30s as a graduate student at Regent University surfaced. Woman: Remember the thesis, Virginia. Don’t forget the thesis. Be educated. JENNIFER WISHON: Entitled “The Republican Party’s Vision for the Family,” McDonnell wrote about women in the workplace, homosexuality and abortion. He maintains strong traditional families are the best hedge of protection against crime, dropouts and welfare, but has backpedaled from his writings on women in the workplace. Bob McDonnell ([R] Candidate for Virginia Governor): My daughter has been in Iraq, was in Iraq when I got elected Attorney General. My two oldest daughters have Master's degrees. My wife has worked most of our marriage. I strongly support women's tremendous contributions to our economy. JENNIFER WISHON: Deeds says he expects President Obama to be as helpful as he can be to his campaign, but appears to be distancing himself from the President’s brand of politics. At a recent debate, when asked if Obama is his kind of Democrat, Deeds paused before saying, quote, “I am a Creigh Deeds Democrat.” As one of only two political shows in town this year, the Virginia governor’s race is expected to set the tone for the midterm congressional elections next year. Political analysts are watching to see if the political trends of the past decades hold up. Governor Kaine is working hard to make sure they don’t. Jennifer Wishon, CBN News. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: It never happened before that I can remember in the Old Dominion. And suddenly, this is a battleground state. But it will help determine the course of the nation, because if New Jersey and Virginia go for the Republicans, then the Democrats will look at the next general election as something that will not be favorable to them. On the other hand, if they hold on, it will be a different matter. But this thing is getting very close in Virginia. Bob McDonnell was way ahead. He had like 15 points ahead going into the fall. And then it’s been reduced to just a couple of points. But as somebody said, the Virginia people really aren’t going to vote on homosexuality. They’re not going to vote on abortion. They’re going to vote on jobs. They’re going to vote on whether they can pay their bills. They’re going to vote about whether they like this health care proposal of the President. And it just seems it’s going to be a referendum on Barack Obama. And under those circumstances, Creigh Deeds might not go ahead. From what we gather, he’s distancing himself from the President. And I doubt if he’d want to bring the President into the state of Virginia at this critical time. But we’ll see what happens. Usually, Presidents have coattails, and candidates jump on board. But that isn’t the case this time. Kristi, what do you think? KRISTI WATTS: Well, I tell you what, it’s definitely a race that we need to watch. PAT ROBERTSON: Come on, what’s next? KRISTI WATTS: Don’t make me laugh. I’m trying to be serious, Pat. PAT ROBERTSON: Go ahead. KRISTI WATTS: Up next, gambling, alcohol and country music. GRAPHIC: RYMAN AUDITORIUM The story behind a national landmark and how it saved a city, after this. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 2A: ISRAEL PAT ROBERTSON: Israel, the land where God came to mankind. Imagine to be in the place where our Lord lived, to stand where He performed His miracles, to see where He taught the multitudes. The pages of the Bible come alive in the land filled with God’s promises. Don’t miss this experience of a lifetime. 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Ask for your free investor’s kit and learn why gold should be a part of your portfolio. Call now. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: Well, today is the final day of our Seven Days Ablaze celebration. And during this time, we’ve prayed for tens of thousands of prayer requests. As a matter of fact, we’ve had about 120,000 requests from our partners across the country. And yesterday in our CBN chapel service, CBN President Michael Little stressed the need to pray with expectancy. SEVEN DAYS ABLAZE HIGHLIGHTS GRAPHIC: MICHAEL D. LITTLE CHAPEL 9-24-09 Michael Little: I want you to capture this, that it is the faith of a child that Jesus has called us to have in expectation of Heaven. And the real priority of this time of seeking God between Rosh Hashanah and Yom Kippur is to again and refreshed to make Heaven our priority. And He’s calling us to obedience. He is calling us to move to a higher level of cleanness of heart and focus on who He is and what He’s saying and lifting Him up. Will you just perhaps as a symbol of our faith in expectancy from the Lord lift them to the Lord. And Chris, would you lead us, please? CHRIS MITCHELL: Well, Father, we just lift up these prayer requests to you from all over the world, from all over the country. And Lord, we just ask for your will be done in these families, these individuals’ lives, all over the country and all over the world. GRAPHIC: CHRIS MITCHELL VIA SKYPE FROM JERUSALEM We lift them up before you, Father, for deliverance, for healing, for financial resources to be imparted to them. And we give you, Lord, the glory and the praise and the honor, in Jesus’ name. Amen. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * HOSTS PRAY FOR NEEDS PAT ROBERTSON: Thousands and thousands of prayer requests. And we have before us many, many prayer requests. Here are some that have come to us. A husband has bipolar disorder. There’s a son who is in Iraq. They say, “Pray for his safety.” There is a heart blockage. They ask for healing. Somebody said, “Would you pray that my eyes would be healed from black spots. The black spots are causing blindness.” What else do we have? KRISTI WATTS: We have a person who—so many of these, Pat—they’re praying for a new job. They were laid off. A seven-month-old daughter has muscle weakness. This person just wants just prayer for marriage and money and health, because their life seems to be a disaster. “Sell my business to save my home.” I tell you what, we’ve been getting a lot of those, Pat. Yes. PAT ROBERTSON: Folks, I want you to know something. God is able to take care of your needs. KRISTI WATTS: Absolutely. PAT ROBERTSON: He absolutely is. He was speaking to Jeremiah. He said, “I am Jehovah. I am Jehovah, the God of all flesh. I am the Creator of the world. I made the world. I made it.” God made it. We’re going to talk to the One who made the world, who made you and me and who made our families and who made the children we have and who made money and who made everything. God is in charge of everything. And if we will come to Him, our requests are nothing in His sight, in terms of the magnitude of what He can do. Our little requests are so small. And yet we come to Him and they seem so big. But they’re not. In God all things are possible. Now, Kristi and I are going to join hands. We’re going to believe God right now for your needs. “Father, we pray now for these needs, these things that have been expressed to us from thousands of people across America. We ask, Lord, that you would heal them, touch them. Thank you, Jesus.” There is a malignant growth on someone’s spine. The doctors say it is inoperable, but God says, “I will fix it.” And right now as we’re praying, that inoperable growth is going to disappear, in the name of Jesus. KRISTI WATTS: Thank you, Jesus. PAT ROBERTSON: Yes, Kristi. KRISTI WATTS: There is also another little girl. Your name is Carrie, and you have a tumor. The family has been praying. Well, today is the day to receive your healing, in Jesus’ name. Thank you, Father God. PAT ROBERTSON: Thank you, Lord. Father, you are the Creator of the earth and there is nothing impossible with you. Now we lift before you families that are broken, people whose lives are battered, financial problems that seem insoluble, physical malady that the doctors say we can’t handle. But, Lord, you can take care of all of it, and we lift before you these problems and we speak the word. In the name of Jesus, receive an answer. Amen. KRISTI WATTS: Amen. PAT ROBERTSON: Praise God. KRISTI WATTS: Amen. Praise God. Praise God. PAT ROBERTSON: Have you got anything else? KRISTI WATTS: No. As we were sitting there praying, I just kept feeling in my spirit, I kept hearing dysfunctional families and how it just seems like the way that our country is these days, it’s like all these disasters are coming against the family to break it apart. But I tell you what, you just hold on to the Holy Spirit. You hold on to God, and He will bring all those things to pass that you’ve been praying for. Praise God for that. GRAPHIC: CALL WITH YOUR PRAYER REQUESTS 1-800-759-0700 CBN.COM Listen, I want to remind you real quick, we’ve got a number, 1-800-759-0700, for prayer counselors who are standing by. If you just need that extra prayer, someone to stand in agreement with you, we’re praying 24/7, but we also have counselors for you that are available for you. Well, Sam Jones was a rowdy drunk. Tom Ryman was a freewheeling riverboat tycoon. Together, they were an unlikely duo to be part of building a church, especially one that’s become a national icon. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * RYMAN AUDITORIUM WILL DAWSON: It’s called the “Mother Church of Country Music,” the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville. Hundreds of country music stars and even a few rock and rollers have performed here. The Ryman has hosted presidents, operas and marriages, but it’s best known for being the former home of the Grand Ole Opry. And it all started with a steamboat tycoon named Tom Ryman and an evangelist named Sam Jones. After the Civil War, the railroad industry in the south took many years to rebuild, but the waterways flowed smooth and steady. Entrepreneurs like Tom Ryman started steamboat businesses along the Mississippi and Cumberland Rivers. But along with the cargo, Ryman’s ships often carried casinos, bar rooms and dancing girls. But Tom Ryman’s life changed the night he met Sam Jones. Sam Jones was born and raised in Cartersville, Georgia. A promising career as a lawyer was derailed when the bottle got the best of him. Jones would go on drunken binges for days at a time, neglecting his family and business. He was thrown out of bars for his drunken uproars and for failing to pay his tab. Then one day, Jones caught a glance of himself in a saloon mirror. He didn’t like what he saw. Sam Jones: I saw my hair matted, the filth and vomit on my clothes, one of my eyes totally closed and my lip swollen. And I said, “Is that all that is left of the proud and brilliant young lawyer Sam Jones?” WILL DAWSON: Sam then remembered a promise he had made to his dying father. Ricky Skaggs (Recording Artist): Sam’s father said, “You’ve brought so much heartache to my heart. Can I trust you? Will you promise me, Sam, that you’ll meet me in Heaven?” WILL DAWSON: Sam dropped to his knees and cried out to God so loudly the bartender thought he was having a heart attack. A miserable drunk fell to the floor that night, but the person who stood up was a new man. He dried out for three days, took a bath, shaved, bought a new suit and went home to his wife. Sam Jones: She didn’t even recognize her own husband. I said, “Honey, God has given you a new husband and the children a new daddy. And I wonder if you will ever forgive me and start all over again.” WILL DAWSON: Sam took up the ministry and began preaching in tent revivals all around the country. Over the next 20 years, he reached several million people and converted over 500,000. His plain and simple preaching style was effective in reaching the common man. Ricky Skaggs: He just didn’t have time for being dignified. He was just raw. He was real. He was pure. He was honest to a fault. I’ve read a lot of his sermons, and I’ve read a lot of his anecdotes, and he was very funny in the pulpit. WILL DAWSON: Sam’s unique combination of homespun humor and fire and brimstone drew thousands of people to his tent revivals. Jones once told a congregation in Toledo, “If the devil were mayor of this town, he wouldn’t change a thing.” In May 1885, Jones held a tent revival on this spot in Nashville and 10,000 people showed up. Legend has it that Captain Tom Ryman showed up as well with his rowdy friends to heckle the evangelist. Charmaine Gossett (Author, “Captain Tom: His Life And Legacy”): It’s an interesting story and it makes people remember him, but that’s not actually what happened. At the time that Sam Jones came to town, Tom Ryman was married. And he and his children, ranging from age 14 to about three, went to the meeting. WILL DAWSON: Sam Jones preached his heart out that night, and when the invitation was given, steamboat captain Tom Ryman was one of the first to respond. Ricky Skaggs: Tom Ryman had a real love for his mother. Sam spoke on mothers, and it just cut Tom to the core. WILL DAWSON: After the revival, Ryman gave the down payment for a tabernacle in Nashville. Charmaine Gossett: Tom Ryman told Sam Jones that, when they built the auditorium, he would never have to preach in a tent again when he came to Nashville. WILL DAWSON: Three years later, the money was raised to begin construction on the Union Gospel Tabernacle. After he accepted Christ, Ryman no longer sold liquor or allowed gambling on his boats. But even without the revenue from these sources, Ryman became the most successful shipping magnate in the south. He built a mansion on nearby Rutledge Hill, where he could watch his ships sail up and down the Cumberland River. Sam Jones and Tom Ryman became good friends over the next decade. When Ryman passed away in 1904, the man who gave the eulogy was none other than Sam Jones. There, he called for a vote to change the name of the Union Gospel Tabernacle to the Ryman Auditorium. The response was a unanimous yea. Forty years later, the Grand Ole Opry Radio Show moved into the Ryman. From 1943 until 1974, the Ryman Auditorium was synonymous with country music. In 1993, Gaylord Entertainment began an eight million dollar renovation of the Ryman, and today, it is a favorite venue for concerts. For many years, a popular Gospel music series was entitled, appropriately, “Sam’s Place.” Ricky Skaggs: There’s something in that building. And I really think that it’s because of the great preaching of men like Sam Jones and thinking of the people that were so convicted by the message and bowing their head on that pew and giving their life to Christ. If those pews could speak and tell stories, just think of what they could tell. I don’t really think that Nashville, Tennessee, would be the city that it is, known for music, known for publishing, Thomas Nelson—so many of the denomination’s headquarters are right here in Nashville. I just don’t think that would have been here had there not been a major revival in the 1800s. To me, it’s the chief cornerstone of this city. I think it’s the most important building in Nashville. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * KRISTI WATTS: What a great story. So, Pat, what do you think about that? PAT ROBERTSON: I think it’s wonderful. KRISTI WATTS: Yes. PAT ROBERTSON: The Grand Ole Opry has moved away from the Ryman. They’re out at Opryland. It’s a theme park. But what a great heritage and a history. That’s just beautiful. KRISTI WATTS: Yes, that was neat. That was really, really neat. Well, next, I tell you, I’m looking forward to this interview. Coming up, the truth that every man must know and what every woman needs to know about him. GRAPHIC: BE A MAN That’s later on, on today’s 700 Club, so don’t go away. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 3A: WEEK OF PRAYER CALL IN SPOT TERRY MEEUWSEN: During the autumn each year, the entire staff of CBN sets aside a special week of prayer. Each day we pray for you and your family. We care about you and the things you need in your life right now. Whether it’s large or small, we want to pray with you. We believe in a miracle-working God who answers prayer, and we want to see the Lord accomplish miracles in your life. Please call us or mail your prayer request today. It’s our privilege to pray for you. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 3B: CURVES Announcer: So you’ve finally decided that it’s the right time for you to lose weight. That’s great. And maybe you’re considering going to Weight Watchers. Woman #1: Weight Watchers? Woman #2: Oh, no, girl. Woman #3: What’s going on? Woman #1: You’re going to try something new. Woman #3: I am? 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A statement from the court said she was experiencing lightheadedness and a slightly low blood pressure. Ginsburg was examined and found to be in normal health. Doctors at a Washington hospital admitted her Thursday evening and kept her overnight for precautionary measures. Ginsburg is battling pancreatic cancer and had surgery earlier this year. THIS WEEK IN OB GEORGE THOMAS: Floodwaters are beginning to recede in parts of Alabama and Georgia today. And residents are salvaging as much as they can from their waterlogged homes. Torrential rains caused more than 250 million dollars of flood damage in Georgia alone. CBN’s Operation Blessing is in the region providing help to thousands of victims. In the past two days, the aid organization has already delivered more than 92,000 pounds of food, water, diapers and other disaster relief supplies. And Operation Blessing is also helping several families clean up their whole houses, the first step in rebuilding their homes. You can find out more by going to Operation Blessing’s web site. It’s OB.org. GRAPHIC: FOR MORE INFORMATION GO TO OB.ORG Pat and Kristi will be back with more of The 700 Club right after this. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 4A: 700 CLUB HD ANNOUNCER: The 700 Club. See it as never before: the stories, the places, the people. The 700 Club, now in HD. We’ll take you to India, China, Africa, Thailand and across the USA. So close, you’ll feel as though you were there. Look into the eyes of the people you’ve helped and see the hope you’ve given them. Experience what God is doing in the world today, in high definition. The 700 Club, now in HD. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 4B: AMMED DIRECT Nicole Johnson: Hi, I’m Nicole Johnson, Miss America 1999. I’ve had diabetes since 1993, and I hate boring food. Don’t you? Well, I got these three free cookbooks with fantastic tasting recipes for people with diabetes. If you have diabetes and have Medicare or qualified insurance, you can get these cookbooks free. Announcer: Call now to qualify for not one, not two, but three free cookbooks. Call 1-800-746-6449. Nicole Johnson: You’ll love this rich, chocolate cake. It makes my mouth water. Plus, oven fried chicken and nachos. Yum! You’ll also get this free meal planning guide and this free diabetes magazine. So call now for your free Better Care kit with three free cookbooks. Announcer: To qualify, call 1-800-746-6449. That’s 1-800-746-6449. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * KRISTI WATTS: Welcome back to The 700 Club. Well, this past Father’s Day, President Obama called on dads across the country to step it up, to do the difficult and sometimes thankless job of being a role model. But it can be tough for some guys to be a man. SET-UP PIECE ANDREW KNOX: Bishop David Evans is the pastor of Bethany Baptist, the largest church in the northeast, with 27,000 members. He’s also a bestselling author and a TV and radio personality. You would never know that he grew up in a troubled home. His mother was a Christian, but his father was an alcoholic. David was trapped in the middle. He struggled for years to resolve his own identity, until he discovered what it means to be a real man. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * GUEST: BISHOP DAVID G. EVANS KRISTI WATTS: Absolutely love this. Please welcome to The 700 Club the author of the new book called Dare To Be a Man, by Bishop David G. Evans. Thank you so much for being here. Bishop David Evans: Thanks for having me. KRISTI WATTS: I tell you what, I was reading this book all last night and was intrigued. In fact, I invited a friend of mine to say, “Come on, you’ve got to be in the audience, because I’m going to give you this book, and your new wife.” What inspired you to write this book? Bishop David Evans: Well, I’ve been pasturing for 19 and a half years. And I realized yesterday that I’ve interviewed, probably counseled about 30,000 people in those 19 years. And the problems that men and women are having in relationships are still as profound as they used to be. Women are still trying to figure out how a man thinks, why he does what he does, thinks what he thinks, acts like he acts. We’re driving you crazy. KRISTI WATTS: True. I’m glad you said it, not me. Bishop David Evans: And guys are trying to figure out who they are. And they don’t speak “woman.” So that’s driving them crazy. So you’ve got people that love one another absolutely at odds, because one of the most important things to us is relationship. And we’re not navigating them properly. So I sat down and I said, we need some kind of road map for doing this thing. Guys need to discover who they are. And women need to understand why we think what we think and do what we do. So I wrote the book, so men could see who God had created them to be and begin to walk in that. For far too long the church has criticized men rather than shown them who creatively God made them to be. So once they know, “This is who I can be,” they become that. KRISTI WATTS: One of the things that intrigued me about your book that I loved is that the concept of a man seems to have changed over the generations. Bishop David Evans: Oh, absolutely. KRISTI WATTS: Because the man that I knew, let’s say my father, plays a completely different role to sometimes the man that I see today. And I wish I saw more of my father’s manhood rather than the men today with the baggy pants and the “yo, yo, yo,” and get your own door and pay your own meal. Bishop David Evans: The problem is men generally emulate their role models. And depending on who the role model is, that’s who you emulate. So if the local criminal is the most successful man in the neighborhood, or appears to be, that’s who you model your life after. And then you’ve got this macho thing, which really isn’t macho. It’s just a cover for insecurity. And so you’ve got guys that are changing who they want to be. And you have women trying to follow a guy who is changing who he wants to be. And there is that insecurity. Because any time a man is changing his own identity, he becomes an insecure place to dwell. KRISTI WATTS: What is a man? Who is a man? Bishop David Evans: The Bible tells us something unique. A man is a person developed by responsibility. He is supposed to be different from a woman. He is uncovered and revealed in relationships. He absolutely is a sweeper, an individual that wants to engulf everything around him. He has been given a voice that is persuasive, that brings security and strength to those people assigned to his life. He is individual that loves responsibility, loves to work. The more responsibility he gets, the greater man he becomes. But the modern model says you want to do as less as possible. You don’t want a lot of responsibility. You want someone else to take care of you. So that model is a model that causes men never to become who they were created to be. But a real man is actually developed under the weight of responsibility. KRISTI WATTS: Well, before we get in to answer the question of how can a man become a man, one of the challenges that society faces today is one I actually face. I’m a single mom of a son. And I grew up with a mother and a father. And so I saw—I emulated my mother. My brother emulated my dad. Now, I am forced, like many women, to take on the role of a man and a woman. So now, I’m thinking how do I raise my son in the way that he can be a man, because I’m not one. Bishop David Evans: Well, first you’ve got to read Dare To Be a Man. KRISTI WATTS: I did. Thank you. Bishop David Evans: And once you read that, you’ll see the real man. The unique thing that you have is that you can tell him what to do, tell him what to be. Difficult for you to show him. So he needs a road map. But when you begin to understand how his mind works, and you can get that through the book, you can model for him. This is who God has created you to be. And then you have to find some strong role models for him to get his examples from. If your dad is still with us, he’s a good role model. If you know some men that are professional, even if you have to pick a guy that’s real strong professionally, and he can impart some wisdom with it, or find someone real strong spiritually. He can impart some wisdom. You find those components to bring to this life, because he’s meeting a plethora of individuals. You just have to show him which one of those individuals he needs to take a part away from. KRISTI WATTS: Sure. In your book, you write “dare to be” many, many things. And one of the very first things that you write in your book is “dare to have a vision.” Tell me what that means, and why is that so important? Bishop David Evans: A man that doesn’t have a vision is stuck in his present. And a vision is given to a man to share. If he doesn’t have a vision, he doesn’t have a direction. He has no motivation. Without direction, he cannot lead the people that are connected to his life. So he’s got to find out who God created him to be. And the content of understanding his creative purpose starts to impregnate him with vision. He starts to see himself becoming something he never envisioned before and starts to walk towards those goals. Joseph has a dream. It’s a dream of destiny. There are some people included in the dream. They don’t like their place in the dream, but nevertheless, they’re in his dream. And their destinies are directly connected to his vision. So when a man has vision, the content of every real vision is the Word of God. So every time a man gets into the Word of God, his vision increases for who he is, and therefore includes those that are assigned to his life. So instead of just becoming a person, he becomes a safe place to dwell. KRISTI WATTS: And becomes safe for others as well, which is key. Bishop David Evans: Consistency breeds security, inconsistency, insecurity. So a man has to be consistent day to day. Now, the way we gain consistency is not based on the behavior of the thing we’re committed to, because if our commitment hinged on someone else’s behavior, we wouldn’t be committed to anything, not a job, not to God, because He doesn’t talk much. KRISTI WATTS: He doesn’t. Don’t you hate that? Bishop David Evans: And then He tells you what to do and doesn’t give you details. KRISTI WATTS: That’s true. Bishop David Evans: So there is this issue of consistency, which lends itself to reliability, which lends itself to behavior, self prohibition. We have to be able to make ourselves stay away from things in order to be consistent in the lives of those who are assigned to us. KRISTI WATTS: It’s interesting. The thing I love about the book is not only that it teaches a man how to be man, but also how women can respond to men and give both of the individuals insight. So what is important from a woman’s perspective? What do we as women need to know to allow a man to be a man? Bishop David Evans: First off, he’s simplistic, but not simple. Men are complex, but predictable. Men speak a different language. Women have to learn how to speak “man.” We are supposed to be distinct, and that’s what makes us attractive to women. So a woman has to learn that he has a voice. He needs encouragement. She needs to find a man that loves to work. KRISTI WATTS: I’m with you. Amen, brother. Keep going. Bishop David Evans: Loves to work, is not afraid of responsibility. Most women make the mistake of talking too much when they meet a man. KRISTI WATTS: I believe that. Bishop David Evans: Because what you do, you lay out what your heart desires. And then most men morph themselves to meet that. So what a woman has to do is a lot of listening. Ask some pointed questions. Is he afraid to be a leader? Is he afraid to give his opinion? Is he afraid to reveal to you who he really is? These are things that a woman can find out. KRISTI WATTS: I tell you what, I wish that we could finish this interview, but we’re going to finish it after the show, because I’ve got more to ask you. I do. Well, Bishop, thank you so much for being here. Bishop David Evans: God bless you. KRISTI WATTS: I appreciate you. I really, really do. The book is called Dare To Be a Man, the truth every man must know and, more importantly, every woman needs to know about him. It’s available nationwide. We’re asking you to get it. This is my copy. I will not give it up. So it’s available at local bookstores. Pat, I’m throwing it to you. PAT ROBERTSON: Thank you, Kristi, and may you find the man of your dreams. KRISTI WATTS: Amen, brother! PAT ROBERTSON: All right. Coming up next, time to answer your e-mail. George says, “My kids are in public school, and I’m worried that they will be bombarded with ideas like Darwinism. How can I prepare them for that?” PAT ROBERTSON: Well, we will Bring It On with that question and more, coming up. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 5: SMART 4 LIFE (Singing): Who stole the cookies from the cookie jar? Woman: I stole the cookie from the cookie jar. (Singing): Who, you? Woman: Yes, me. And I lost 105 pounds. (Singing): Who stole the cookies from the cookie jar? Man: I stole the cookie from the cookie jar. (Singing): Who, you? Man: Yes, me. And I lost 115 pounds in six months. Announcer: If you want to lose up to 15 pounds a month, get Smart For Life cookies. Doctors developed Smart For Life cookies with extracts from natural ingredients, like fruits, vegetables, wheat and dairy. Smart cookie meals replace breakfast and lunch, so you can save 1,200 dollars a year on food. Woman: Just pop a cookie. 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At Lee Memorial, I died. KRISTI WATTS: Next week on The 700 Club. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: This year’s Oscar winner was an Indian film. It told the story of a young boy’s escape from the slums of India. Well, every day, CBN’s Orphan’s Promise is helping other children do the same, children like Akhtar and Rasheed. AKHTAR AND RASHEED TERRY MEEUWSEN: Imagine growing up in a place like this, a slum area outside of New Delhi. This is where Akhtar and Rasheed grew up with their abusive father. Akhtar: Our father used to get drunk and never even cared if my brother and I had anything to eat. We basically had to find a way to live on our own. We started to steal money from people. We would steal metal or other items from the railroad or a factory. Sometimes we went days without food, and the only place we could sleep was on the ground. TERRY MEEUWSEN: But all that was about to change for Akhtar and Rasheed. Their father knew that he couldn’t take care of them, so he sent them here to this children’s home, sponsored by CBN’s Orphan’s Promise. Akhtar: We get good meals every day, and it is peaceful here. We also have nice beds to sleep on. And I like the classes that I’m taking here, because I’m learning how to read and write both in English and Hindi. Rasheed: When I came here, I didn’t have anything, but I was given new clothes, books, pencils, shoes, everything. TERRY MEEUWSEN: And these brothers’ hearts are being transformed as well, as they have both prayed to receive Jesus as Savior. Rasheed: I didn’t live a good life before, but after I came here, Jesus changed me. I want to become a pastor when I grow up, because I want everybody to know and believe in Jesus, so all of us can go to Heaven together. TERRY MEEUWSEN: And Akhtar has dreams, too. Akhtar: Jesus has totally changed my life. Now I want to become a doctor, so I can treat the helpless children and the needy. TERRY MEEUWSEN: This children’s home outside of New Delhi currently has space for 26 children, but they would like to expand that, so that they can include 100. And CBN’s Orphan’s Promise would like to help them make that happen. Akhtar: When I look at the kids who still live in the slums, I remember how I used to live, how I used to have to steal for food. I wish these children’s lives would change just like mine. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: What a thrill to be able to help people like that. GRAPHIC: 1-800-759-0700 CBN.COM You go through India, there are just so many, hundreds and hundreds of people who are desperate, but we can help them. We’re helping. Orphan’s Promise is one way of doing it. Those little children are offered hope. And if you want to be part of something as wonderful as that, you can join The 700 Club. It’s a great thing. You say, “Well, how can I help a child?” Well, just 20 dollars. Not a whole lot of money, 20 dollars a month, 65 cents a day, and you could be a member. And for those who are members, I want to send you Miracles Beyond Measure. GRAPHIC: JOIN NOW TO RECEIVE YOUR COPY! 1-800-759-0700 CBN.COM It’s a DVD that has a teaching on sort of the deeper truths of what Jesus said about miracles and something that you might want. It will be a blessing to you. But call in: 1-800-759-0700. And say, “You can count on me as a member of The 700 Club.” We can’t touch them all, but we can sure touch a lot of them, so let’s be a blessing to those we can help while there is still time. Kristi. KRISTI WATTS: I love that, Pat. That so warmed my heart. And I was thinking not only do the kids have hope, they’ve got vision. “I want to be a doctor.” Oh, I love it, I love it, I love it. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * BRING IT ON KRISTI WATTS: All right. We’re going to go to e-mail. This is the time that you have taken the opportunity to log on to CBN.com to send Pat some questions. So we’re going to jump right in, because our time is ticking away. George says, “As my children return to public school this year, I worry that they will be bombarded with the secularist ideas of evolution and Darwinism. How can I best prepare them to defend their biblical beliefs in such a hostile environment?” PAT ROBERTSON: Well, George, along the way you’ve got to teach them. Teach them what the Bible says. Teach them the truth about science. Teach them things, and it will take some work. But you can meet together. You’ve got the inside track on your children, so you need to teach them. And when they come up with things like Darwinism, you need to have some answers. So they come, and then you sit around the table and you say now, “Here is what this says. Here is what this book says. Here is this. Here is that. Here is the other.” And that means you need to be knowledgeable. But you don’t just kind of cram it to them all at one time and just say, “Well, for one week I taught them everything, and then for the next four years they’re okay.” It won’t work that way. It’s an ongoing process. All right. KRISTI WATTS: Good advice, Pat. Liz writes in, and Liz says, “Lately, seeing all the wildfires and flooding in the news, I have become concerned about my family’s ability to handle such a disaster. I have told my husband that we should get some emergency supplies together and have a plan just in case. He said not to worry and just trust in the Lord. Pat, do you think that preparing for a possible disaster, no matter how unlikely it is, is not trusting in the Lord?” PAT ROBERTSON: The wise man sees the danger, and he hides himself. A fool goes on and is punished. The idea that you’re just going to, quote, “trust the Lord for everything,” He’s given us a brain. And the idea of having a certain amount of water or some dried food and things like that on hand or a few gold coins or whatever to make sure that in a time of disaster you can take care of yourself. We were there in New Orleans, and there were several days when the people had no food, they had no water, they had nothing. And those who were prepared had something, and the rest of them didn’t. So that’s just the way it is. But if you had a well, if you have a generator, I think a generator is very important. You’re used to using electricity. So, what else? KRISTI WATTS: Juanita. Juanita writes in and says, “What do you do with a grown single parent child living in your home with her two-year-old, who is dating someone you can see is totally wrong for her? We love our granddaughter and are afraid to put our daughter out for fear the baby will not have the loving care she gets with us. Our daughter is 25 and has a good job, but she is verbally abusing us with regard to her dating choices. We don’t feel she should be dating at all.” PAT ROBERTSON: Well, of course, she can be dating. Why shouldn’t be dating? She wants to find a mate. But if she’s out sleeping around, that’s a different matter. I don’t know what she’s doing, what her habits are. But I don’t know what you can do with a 25-year-old. KRISTI WATTS: I think that’s always a challenge when you have an adult child leave the home and then come back as an adult and live underneath their roof. And to be honest with you, I’ve never had that situation, but I would think if it’s my house and I’m paying the bills, you do what I tell you to do. PAT ROBERTSON: Yes, but you can’t tell a 25-year-old who they’re going to date. KRISTI WATTS: Well, but if they’re coming in doing stuff. PAT ROBERTSON: Well, if they’re doing stuff inside, if they’re taking drugs—there are various things that you can say: “You can’t have drugs. You can’t do this. You can’t do the other. And you’re not going to have sex in my house.” That kind of stuff. KRISTI WATTS: And she was saying she was verbally abusive to the parents, too. PAT ROBERTSON: What’s verbally abusive? Well, verbally abusive is sort of, “It’s my life.” She is now the head of a household. She has a child. KRISTI WATTS: Yes, but I tell you, when my son turns 30, 40, 50 years old, he’d better still say, “Yes, ma’am. No, ma’am.” Be verbally abusive to me. Haven’t you noticed that today you’re kind of the really extra nice one, and I’m kind of the mean one today? Not that you’re . . . . PAT ROBERTSON: You are. I just can’t understand it. Well, it’s “Casual Friday.” KRISTI WATTS: Maybe that’s it. You’re so laid back and chilled out. I’m all uptight. PAT ROBERTSON: I know. KRISTI WATTS: Maybe I need to be like you. Let me relax. All right. All right. One more question. PAT ROBERTSON: I’m afraid this is revealing too much, but go ahead. KRISTI WATTS: I know. Linda writes in and says, “I’m trying to help a friend who is battling longtime addictions to smoking and overeating. What would you tell a fellow Christian to do in order to break free from such addictions?” PAT ROBERTSON: You need a model. Somebody needs a model. So think of what you would be if. You’re going to have lung cancer. I tell you, I used to smoke. I smoked a couple of packs of cigarettes a day. And I saw the films of Dr. Oxner, I think, at Tulane University who had done a study on rats. They painted the rats’ backs with nicotine and then showed the horrible sores that those rats had. And I said, “I don’t need this. I’m not going to have it.” And I got out of one class in evidence, threw a cigarette down, and I ground it out, and I said, “The last cigarette I’ll ever smoke.” You have to have something like that to shock them and to show them, the consequences of what their action is. And it’s just the way it is, but you can also do a lot of praying. Say, “Lord, show them.” Well, that’s all the time we’ve got. Thanks for those questions. And thanks for being with me on Casual Friday. We leave you with these words from Psalm 18, . . . . GRAPHIC: Psalm 18:30 “As for God, His way is perfect; the Word of the Lord is proven; He is a shield to all who trust in Him.” (NKJV) . . . . “As for God, His way is perfect; the Word of the Lord is proven; He is a shield to all who trust in Him.” * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * END SPOT: YOU WERE THERE TERRY MEEUWSEN: I have the privilege of traveling all over the world and seeing firsthand the life changing things you make possible through your partnership. Thank you for joining The 700 Club. Here in India, you’re demonstrating the love of God to such wonderful people, most of who are in great need, both physically and spiritually. You’re bringing hope and joy to millions around the world, just like you did for the Chens. Their home was destroyed in an earthquake, leaving them with nothing but heartache. You rebuilt their entire village and restored their dreams as well. Your monthly gift makes it possible to heal the sick, feed the hungry and preach the Gospel, both at home in America and throughout the world. So please watch for this mailing and send in your pledge. Imagine lifting someone’s life out of despair and filling it with hope instead. That’s what you make possible every day, and it only happens because you were there.