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The 700 Club - January 10, 2012

Extreme abuse at the hands of neighborhood boys left Robert Brown an emotionally crippled child who did not want to go on. Plus, Champion quarterback Drew Brees shares his story of faith and football.

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LEE WEBB: The new record holder for single-season passing yards. Drew Brees: God does have a purpose for me it's much greater than football. LEE WEBB: Drew Brees talks about overcoming adversity . . . . Drew Brees: I was given a 25 percent chance of coming back and playing like myself. LEE WEBB: . . . . living his dream . . . . Drew Brees: It's surreal to think that it actually did happen. LEE WEBB: . . . . and keeping the faith. Drew Brees: A city that just needed somebody to believe in them. * * * PAT ROBERTSON: Well, welcome ladies and gentlemen. Alabama took control over LSU and cruised; it looked like cruised, 21-zip. TERRY MEEUWSEN: I guess. 21-zip? That was amazing wasn’t it. PAT ROBERTSON: Nick Saban established himself probably is the top college coach in the country, and we also have Drew Brees, who set passing records. Then we've got little Princess Maggie. TERRY MEEUWSEN: She’s back. PAT ROBERTSON: Precious little puppy to show everybody who are dog lovers. They're on the show today, but it's cold. But today it hasn't been so cold, but people haven't really endured a New Hampshire like some of us did. It's not like the old core. You kind of breeze through there, and then you're out to warm climate. TERRY MEEUWSEN: One good thing about the weather is it means that turnout will probably be good, right? PAT ROBERTSON: They’re talking about 300,000 people for both primaries which is huge for New Hampshire. Well, Mitt Romney looks like to be in cruise control as he drives towards a victory in today's New Hampshire primary. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, that leaves his opponents already setting up their next move in hopes of stopping him. CBN's David Brody has the story from New Hampshire. DAVID BRODY: Mitt Romney looks loose and ready as he hopes New Hampshire will bring a wider margin of victory than Iowa. Mitt Romney (R-Presidential Candidate): Oh, beautiful for spacious skies, for amber waves of grain. I used to joke in Iowa that corn counted as an amber waves of grain. That got me an eight-vote margin. I'm hoping to get 16 here. Okay, guys. We've got to double that. DAVID BRODY: Romney may look unbeatable to some, but he made headlines Monday with this. Mitt Romney: I like being able to fire people who provide services to me. DAVID BRODY: He was actually referring to firing insurance companies that don't provide good service, but that didn't stop his opponents from going after Romney who's already fighting back charges that the company he used to run fire people routinely. Jon Huntsman (Republican Presidential Candidate): Gov. Romney enjoys firing people. I enjoy creating jobs. DAVID BRODY: Jon Huntsman is closing well here, as is Ron Paul, whose libertarian message goes over smoothly in this “Live free or die,” state. Ron Paul (R-Presidential Candidate): We gained our liberties not from our government, but we gain them from our Creator, and we should protect those liberties. We shouldn't be telling people how to live, how to run the economy, or telling the rest of the world what they ought to be doing. Rick Santorum (R-Presidential Candidate): A heart-felt, thank-you very much for coming out. Thank you all. DAVID BRODY: Rick Santorum faces an uphill climb in this state with fewer evangelicals. That demographic difference convinced Gov. Rick Perry to go ahead and high tail it to South Carolina. Rick Perry (R-Presidential Candidate): The other reason we came to South Carolina was because these other states, and these other primaries, they are winnowing down the candidates. South Carolina picks presidents. DAVID BRODY (Hudson, New Hampshire): With Mitt Romney holding a sizable lead here in New Hampshire, the goal is not to be him; rather it's to slow him down with a death by 1000 paper cuts strategy. In other words all these candidates are going to go after Romney in South Carolina, the next primary state in a variety of ways. Enter Newt Gingrich who is ready to change tactics and go after Romney with a $3 million ad buy. Expect stories of how Romney's firm, Bain Capital, destroyed lives by leaving companies in shambles while it profited. Gingrich will also highlight how Romney's healthcare plan provided for taxpayer-funded abortions. Newt Gingrich (R-Presidential Candidate): One of my goals is to keep Romney from being in a position to sort of rush the nomination. The long this goes on, the more clear it is how un-conservative his record is. The more difficult it will be for Romney to survive in this race. DAVID BRODY: Romney is counting on help from Tea Party favorite, South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley. (Interviewing): What about the Tea Party supporters who don't trust Mitt Romney on these issues? Nikki Haley (R-South Carolina): I think he has to work hard to educate him on the issues. They will see that he knows the value of the dollar. He's worked in the private sector for 25 years. He's not part of the chaos that’s Washington, DC. DAVID BRODY: So while Romney may have a big night in New Hampshire, he is expected to have a big fight in South Carolina. David Brody CBN News, in Manchester, New Hampshire. PAT ROBERTSON: Good for you, David. Thank you very much. The thing that worries me in terms of Republicans, how can they beat up on somebody for doing what Schumpeter called the “creative destruction of capitalism.” You have good companies and you have bad companies, and you have to be able to lay people off and sometimes shut down inefficient factories in order to build better ones. I mean, that's just part of capitalism. For the Republicans to certainly turn anti-capitalistic, it doesn't sit well. So anyhow, it's a bloodbath, and I don't like it. I think they're making a big mistake, and they're handing the Democrats a tremendous fodder for the general election. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, you know, the other day we were talking about the money involved in all of this, and I'm sure you feel after you've had so many people back you with so much money that you have to do whatever you have to do to try to stay alive in this whole thing. It's really a shame when people start grabbing like we were seeing there at sound bites, pulling out little bits of them that don't have anything to do with creating or not creating jobs today and utilizing that against somebody, you’ve just have to shake your head and go “Really?” PAT ROBERTSON: That’s the game. If somebody makes a bad sound bite, they'll use it and use it. It's kind of like any advantage, but this is not your grandfather's Republican Party. They just didn't do this way. They were gentlemen, and thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican. Now it's how much ill can I speak about my opponents? It's terrible. They'll rue the day if they don't stop it. But I think this thing will be over pretty quickly. If he runs the table, takes Iowa, takes New Hampshire, and then has a very strong showing in South Carolina, then goes into Florida, it's kind of like the game's over, and he's headed for the general election. Well, we will have an update on the results from New Hampshire on tonight’s 700 Club on the Family Channel . . . . GRAPHIC: NEW HAMPSHIRE PRIMARY CBN NEWS UPDATE ON NEW HAMPSHIRE RESULTS 700 CLUB ON ABC FAMILY . . . . and David Brody will join us tomorrow with his analysis of that vote in New Hampshire and what's ahead in the presidential race. Lee Webb has the rest of our top stories from the CBN Newsroom. Lee. CURSE WORDS CASE LEE WEBB: Pat, the US Supreme Court today considers a policy that regulates cursing on television. It's a First Amendment case that pits the Obama Administration against the networks. The court is considering whether the Federal Communications Commission can still regulate what's considered “indecent material.” That includes foul language as well as nudity. Network executives, though, argue the policy is unnecessary in a time when so many Americans have unregulated cable TV. PROPERTY BATTLE LEE WEBB: The Supreme Court has heard a case that could change the power of federal bureaucracies to control private property. The case involves a couple that tried to build a house on their own land, and a federal agency that told them that they couldn't. Paul Strand has more. GRAPHIC: PACIFIC LEGAL FOUNDATION PAUL STRAND: Mike and Chantel Sackett were just trying to build their three-bedroom dream home overlooking Priest Lake, Idaho, when the Environmental Protection Agency turn their dream into a nightmare. So began a legal battle is now ended up with the Sacketts fighting before the US Supreme Court. The Sackett's were preparing the slot for their home when the EPA ordered them to stop alleging it was a wet let. Although there was nothing went on the land, and no neighbor on any side had ever been found to be on a wetland. Then the EPA threatened to hit the Sacketts with massive $37,500 a day fines unless they restored the land, fenced it off, and let it sit for three years. Mike Sackett (Fighting the EPA): Can you imagine that? Going to bed every night with that on your mind. By now we are up over $40 million in fines. It’s literally terrifying. GRAPHIC: MIKE SACKETT FIGHTING THE EPA PAUL STRAND: These small business owners face the very real possibility of financial ruin. What's led to this case is that the Sackett's found the way the federal rules are written, they couldn't take the EPA to court to argue their case. Mike Sackett: The government’s here to serve us and they're not. They're coming into people's lives, turning them upside down, and making it to where you can't fight back. PAUL STRAND: So they have sued with the help of the nonprofit Pacific Legal Foundation, declaring this is about the most fundamental rights in America, property rights. Damien Schiff (Pacific Legal Foundation): EPA, like any federal agency is not a law unto itself. Even EPA must abide by the constitutional protections for private property rights that our founders enshrined in people like the Sackett's can't have their dream and their dreams to build the home trampled upon by an agency run wild. PAUL STRAND: Apparently the justices appeared sympathetic to the Sackett's plight and critical of the EPA's claim that it should be free of judicial review. Damien Schiff: They were his exasperated by that assertion as we have been, and so to that extent it was gratifying. GRAPHIC: CHANTELL SACKETT FIGHTING THE EPA Chantell Sackett (Fighting the EPA): I was very hopeful. When you hear some of the questions that were common sense questions to ask, I was elated. PAUL STRAND (The Supreme Court): So now it's up to the court to decide whether a federal bureaucracy’s power and whims are so important, they outweigh the property rights of the average American. Paul Strand CBN News, reporting from the Supreme Court. LEE WEBB: You know, Pat, earlier we heard Mitt Romney say that he enjoys firing people. If he becomes president, he might enjoy firing the EPA. PAT ROBERTSON: Abolish them; it would be great. There are a number of these. Gov. Perry wanted to cut out several bureaus, he couldn't remember the third one that he wanted. He had three. TERRY MEEUWSEN: We’ll go with two. PAT ROBERTSON: The first two would work. But Lee you know, this whole idea of wetlands, we got property here. CBN owns property, and we were building a school and all this; and we had somebody go march off the stuff, and there wasn't wetlands. But there was a whole out more wet here than it is in Idaho. Nothing went about that property, and to declare that a wetlands is just outrageous. I mean you can declare anything a wetland and put it off limits for development, and that's outrageous. But what we did, we had an independent survey, went through there and said, “No this is not a wetland.” I don't know if the Sackett's did the same thing but, there needs to be some power beyond the EPA that’s making arbitrary rulings. We understand those fines can exceed $100 million for that couple. It's just insanity. Lee. PEDOPHILIA CONTROVERSY LEE WEBB: Pat, disability groups in Greece are angry at a government decision to recognize pedophilia as a disability. I'm not making this story out. The labor Ministry in Greece says that pedophilia was added to the list for medical assessment purposes and to help to decide who should get financial help. The National Confederation of Disabled People, calls the move quote, “incomprehensible.” They say pedophiles will now receive higher disability payments than people who have undergone organ transplants. PEDOPHILE RING LEE WEBB: Israeli police are working to stop a suspected pedophilia ring targeting small children in Jerusalem. They've arrested at least nine men, the most recent arrest Sunday. Police say the ring is suspected of molesting 70 children between the ages of two and seven in their religious Jewish neighborhood. Authorities say parents tried to solve the problem themselves and took months to involve police. Pat, it’s the largest ever pedophilia case in Jerusalem. PAT ROBERTSON: I am shocked that this leak. This is supposed to be a holy nation. This is supposed to be a nation set apart to God, and the idea that in Jerusalem, the Holy Capital, the Eternal City, that there would be a ring of pedophiles? It beggars comprehension. I just can't grasp it, and I'm sure that many in Israel can't grasp it, either. But they certainly do need to come down hard on the people who are perpetrating these terrible thing. Lee. NURSES STUDY LEE WEBB: Nurses in the United Kingdom often time lack skills and compassion. Those are the disturbing findings of a panel set up by the government to examine the UK's government -run healthcare program. Their report says many nurses have poor math skills and not enough practical training. It goes on to say they no longer understand the value of their jobs, and that leads to less compassion for their patients. The report discovered the crisis affects the elderly the most. Earlier this week Prime Minister David Cameron called on nurses to focus on patients, not on paperwork. 3:16 EVERYWHERE LEE WEBB: Tim Tebow’s performance Sunday in Denver’s upset win over Pittsburgh sent people flocking to the Internet. The game made John 3:16 the most searched item on Google. Tebow passed—now look at these numbers, Tebow passed for 316 yards. He averaged 31.6 yards per pass, and guess what CBS’ rating for the game peaked at? You guessed it, 31.6. All those 3:16’s had the fans searching the Internet, and that's where they found the famous Bible where, were Jesus said, “For God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, so that whoever believes in him will not perish, but have everlasting life.” GRAPHIC: JOHN 3:16 “For God so loved the world that He gave his only begotten son, so that whoever believes in him will not perish, but have everlasting life.” Tim Tebow sometimes painted John 3:16 on his eye black when he was in college at the University of Florida, and that's a practice, by the way, the NCAA has since banned. ALABAMA WINS LEE WEBB: The Alabama Crimson Tide claimed their second national championship in three years. They beat top-ranked LSU 21 to nothing, the first shutout in the bowl series 14-year history. Alabama's defense was dominant to say the least. LSU did not even cross midfield until seven and a half minutes left in the game. LSU won the first meeting between these two teams back earlier in the season at Alabama, and many college fans didn't think Alabama deserved a second shot at LSU. But the BCS voters felt otherwise, and the Tides certainly made the best of their opportunity. By the way, it's the six straight SEC team that's won a national championship in the third straight from the state of Alabama, Pat. And to show you how dominant Alabama was, they were only penalize one time last night, for five yards. PAT ROBERTSON: Nick Saban, incredible coach, and Les Miles thought that was pretty good too. But you know that Alabama line, Lee, those offenses linemen averaged 300 pounds. They used to have a guy they called “the refrigerator” for the Chicago Bears who was over 300 pounds, and he was sort of an anomaly. Now the whole line, Terry, 300 pounds and a lot of that muscle. TERRY MEEUWSEN: I remember the refrigerator. You could pick them out on the field. PAT ROBERTSON: Yes. He weighed over 300 pounds. Now the whole lineup of college team, 300 pounds. Unbelievable! Phew! But I tell you, Nick Saban is a recruiter and a strategist, and he just boxed up LSU. Les Miles is probably still scratching his head saying, “What in the world happened to us on this one?” TERRY MEEUWSEN: Who was that masked man? PAT ROBERTSON: Oh man, okay. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, coming up, it sounds like something straight out of Nazi Germany, but it's happening in modern-day America. Woman: They immediately sterilized me at the same time without my knowledge or without my consent. After that I started going to a private doctor, and the doctor told me that I had been butchered. TERRY MEEUWSEN: We’ll tell you about the shocking history of government-mandated sterilization. That's next. GRAPHIC: GOT A QUESTION FOR PAT? 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Plus: GRAPHIC: ROOTS OF RACISM Woman: They don't really like us. LEE WEBB: And she didn't like them. Woman: It’s us and them. LEE WEBB: One former racist gets a lesson in diversity. Woman: All things are possible. LEE WEBB: Tomorrow, on The 700 Club. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: In the phrase “EU,” “U” is Greek for “good,” and “genics” is “genes” or “race.” So eugenics is the theory that the human race can improve itself through selective inbreeding. That was preached by Margaret Sanger of Planned Parenthood. Interestingly enough, the great liberal, Oliver Wendell Holmes, said “three generations of imbeciles is enough. Let's sterilize them.” So for decades, state governments, including the one here, 31 states ran so-called eugenics programs that targeted, whether it was the poor or the minorities, but supposedly mentally defective, so they wouldn't breed and just make it a problem in society. While the State sterilized some 60,000 Americans involuntarily, at least they were tricked; they didn't quite know what was going on. Charlene Israel has the story of one North Carolina victim who is speaking out about her terrible experience. FOCUS: NC EUGENICS CHARLENE ISRAEL: When Elaine Riddick was 13 years old, she became the victim of a brutal rape. Elaine Riddick (Victim of Forced Sterilization): The person just jumped from behind a barn or a building, and drug me to a car, and just molested; he just raped me. CHARLENE ISRAEL: It led to a pregnancy; and nine months later, she gave birth to a son. What happened after that delivery caused Elaine a lifetime of physical and mental pain. Elaine Riddick: They immediately sterilized me at the same time without my knowledge or without my consent. I just getting really, really sick. I was hemorrhaging. I was walking the street, and I would just pass out for no reason at all. After that I started going to a private doctor, and the doctor told me that I had been butchered. CHARLENE ISRAEL: At 19 Elaine married. It wasn't until tried to start a family that she learned she could no longer bear children. Elaine Riddick: Found out then that when they went in to sterilize me, they had so severely damaged my fallopian tubes until they could only patch one back up; and the other one, I don't know what happened to it. CHARLENE ISRAEL: It was later revealed that the state of North Carolina ordered the sterilization after a decision by the state's Eugenics Board. At one time, 31 states had a government-run eugenics program. In North Carolina alone, close to 8,000 men, women, and children, mostly poor, black, disabled and uneducated, were forcibly sterilized from 1929 to 1974. Elaine Riddick: The answers that they're giving me, I don't like them, because when I ask them the same question, “Why?” their response is because I was “feeble minded.” CHARLENE ISRAEL: In 1927, the U.S. Supreme Court endorsed aspects of the eugenics movement. Supreme Court Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes wrote: "It is better for all the world, if instead of waiting to execute degenerate offspring for crime, or to let them starve for their imbecility, society can prevent those who are manifestly unfit from continuing their kind. Three generations of imbeciles are enough." Author and historian Edwin Black recently testified before the House Judiciary committee's subcommittee about the history of racist eugenics in America. Edwin Black (Author, War Against the Weak): The genocidal actions of the American eugenicists were not conducted by men in white sheets, burning crosses at midnight, but by men in white lab coats and in three pieces suits in the fine corridors of our great universities in the state House, in the courthouse, and in the medical society. This was all subject to the rule of law. CHARLENE ISRAEL: Eugenics is also blamed for paving the way for today's selective abortion practices in which babies are aborted because of their race or sex. Rep. Trent Franks (R-Arizona): The results of abortion on demand in America today is that between 40 and 50 percent of all African-American babies, virtually one in two, are killed before they're born. Penny Nance (Concerned Women for America): I think it's outrageous in a nation where we're so interested, and appropriately so, in protecting women and minorities, yet we turn such a blind eye to the fact that children are being aborted just based on their skin color, just based on the fact that they're little girls. CHARLENE ISRAEL: In 2002, the governments of North Carolina, Virginia, Oregon, and South Carolina issued apologies to victims of forced sterilization. North Carolina is considering compensating survivors, providing between $20,000 to $50,000 to each verified living victim. Elaine says that's not enough. Elaine Riddick: To me, $20,000 is a slap in the face. It's a big insult added on to what you've already done to me. CHARLENE ISRAEL: Mean time she has completed a college degree and says her faith has helped her to forgive those who robbed her of life. Elaine Riddick: If it wasn't the God in me, or my recognizing Him within me, or if I wasn't having those communions with Him, I don't know where I might be. CHARLENE ISRAEL: Today, Elaine enjoys being a mother to her son who has gone on to become a successful entrepreneur. She is also on a mission to help other survivors find healing. Elaine Riddick: Just being able to be a mouthpiece for others that cannot speak for themselves, or are afraid to come out, or for the ones it happened to that might be dead and wanted to say something and couldn't say anything. I recognize my mission, and I'm going to fulfill it. CHARLENE ISRAEL: Charlene Israel, CBN News. PAT ROBERTSON: Thanks, Charlene. Now, ladies and gentlemen, I want to tell you who is the leader of the eugenics movement. Margaret Sanger of Planned Parenthood. And Planned Parenthood according to recent figures has received close to 500 million dollars in annual contributions from the federal taxpayers. They provide about 300 million abortions a year. Is a 300 million? TERRY MEEUWSEN: I'm not sure about the statistic. PAT ROBERTSON: I don't know what the number is, 300,000? I think it’s 300 million, but anyhow, an enormous number of abortions. It’s an abortion factory, and they promulgate the teachings of Margaret Sanger. I would look it up on Google, Margaret Sanger, and the monograph is called “Breeding the Thoroughbred.” Look it up. Get the copy of it where she lays out in great detail why black people are inferior, southern Europeans are inferior, evangelical Protestants are inferior, and she went down the list, and these people, basically, she wanted to sterilize. She wanted to limit their ability to have babies, because she wanted to breed the quote, “thoroughbred.” Adolf Hitler and that whole concept of the Aryan Race, took a great deal of mature up from her and the people she was associated with. These are the people who are getting close to half a billion dollars of taxpayer money that we have to borrow from the Chinese or somebody in order to pay for it. That's what's going on. So when you hear about the Republicans wanted to take away the funding for Planned Parenthood, just think “eugenics,” think of forced sterilization, think of Margaret Sanger, and get that piece of paper that she wrote called “Breeding the Thoroughbred.” Read it for yourself. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Important. PAT ROBERTSON: It is important. Go ahead. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, coming up, he lead the New Orleans Saints to their first ever Super Bowl win, and now he is gunning for a second. Drew Brees: It’s an unbelievable feeling just to have that trust and that confidence, and that faith, that if you do things the right way, good things will happen to you. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Drew Brees talks about football and faith and why he nearly walked away from the game. 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TERRY MEEUWSEN: Come on, go see your daddy. PAT ROBERTSON: Come here Maggie, come here sweetheart. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Now I ‘m a dog trainer for you, for crying out loud. That's what happens when you stick around for a while. PAT ROBERTSON: This is a Irish Water Spaniel. TERRY MEEUWSEN: How big is she going to get? PAT ROBERTSON: Oh, she will get to maybe 50 pounds, 49 pounds. Isn't she something? Isn't she pretty? TERRY MEEUWSEN: You better enjoy that while you can. PAT ROBERTSON: Oh, she's a sweetheart. She's got more life. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Maggie, you are a beauty. PAT ROBERTSON: Isn’t she sweet. TERRY MEEUWSEN: She’s gorgeous and soft as can be. PAT ROBERTSON: Very soft. This is Princess Maggie. TERRY MEEUWSEN: You know you’re a princess. You know, she almost looks like she has one of those old British wigs on. PAT ROBERTSON: Her hair is going to get all curly and pretty, and she is a sweetheart. TERRY MEEUWSEN: She’s beautiful. She still has puppy fur doesn’t she? PAT ROBERTSON: Oh, totally puppy fur. She's only like 12 weeks old or something. She's just a baby. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Maggie, that’s a tongue and a half you got there, girl. PAT ROBERTSON: Isn’t she nice? TERRY MEEUWSEN: You got yours and three other dogs. PAT ROBERTSON (to Maggie): Okay, sweetheart. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Say, “Am I done, dad?” Oh, and a leopard collar. PAT ROBERTSON: A leopard collar. She wants to go see Pete, so we will let her go see Pete. Last week the New Orleans Saints blew out the Detroit Lions in the first round of the NFL playoffs, thanks in no small part to their cannon armed cornerback whose name is Drew Brees. A former Super Bowl MVP is fresh off a season that saw him set a record for most passing yards in a single year. Recently CBN's Shawn Brown sat down with the former Super Bowl MVP to talk about football, his family and most important, his faith. Watch this. DREW BREES SHAWN BROWN: It was the day their beloved Saints would finally win the Super Bowl. It came on the leadership and arm of game MVP and quarterback, Drew Brees, who did what many thought was close to impossible. Drew Brees: That unbelievable feeling, it's surreal to think that it actually did happen. SHAWN BROWN: But a great story isn't just about the ending, it's also about the journey. Drew and his younger brother, Reid, grew up in Austin, Texas, and football wasn't his favorite sport. Drew Brees: Baseball was my favorite sport, and I played all sports. I was just really one of those kids that my brother and I were just sports junkies. We’d—every free second we had, was out in the yard pitching to each other or tackling each other, or playing tennis, or just running around. Whatever it was, it was always athletic. SHAWN BROWN: But by high school, Drew excelled in football as a quarterback. He looks forward to playing at the college level, but in his junior year, he suffered a torn ACL, and at the time his future in football looked dim. Drew Brees: I had seen a lot of my friends tear their ACLs, and some of them hadn't come back good as they were before, not as fast, not as mobile, whatever it might be; and so the thought of a torn ACL was devastating to me, because I thought that I might be in the same boat as them, which was I wouldn't come back as strong. SHAWN BROWN: One Sunday at church, something the pastor said changed everything. Drew Brees: I was 17 years old sitting in church one day with a torn ACL, crutches, just kind of wondering, “If football were not here for me, or if sports weren't here for me, what's my calling in life? What's my purpose? What am I here to do? What's God's purpose for me?” And for some reason, it all hit me is His call to the congregation was that God was looking for a few good men to carry the torch, and to represent the Christian faith, and to lead, and I just remember thinking to myself, “Man, I'd like to be one of those few good men.” SHAWN BROWN: Drew became a Christian that day; and with a new purpose, he was determined that nothing would stand in his way. Drew Brees: God does have a purpose for me that's much greater than football. SHAWN BROWN: Drew went on to finish his high school football career with a 28-0 record. He spent the next four years at Purdue where he led the Boilermakers to the 2001 Rose Bowl. Though they came up short, there were bigger things in store for Drew that year. He was drafted by the San Diego Chargers. He spent five seasons there until he dislocated his throwing shoulder while trying to recover a fumble. Once again, Drew’s future in football was questionable. Drew Brees: I was given a 25 percent chance of coming back and playing like myself, and that could very easily put a lot of doubt in your heart. But ever since that moment in high school, when I truly accepted the responsibility of being a Christian and accepted Jesus into my heart, and knowing that I'm living for a lot more than myself, I'm living for Him and the call that we all have as Christians. I knew that my faith was strong, and as long as I relied on that and knew that there was a plan, and I just had to believe it. I just had to trust it. SHAWN BROWN: In just two months, Drew had fully recovered. But by then the Chargers organization had decided to go with Philip Rivers as the starter. So Drew decided to move on. He had two choices, the Miami Dolphins, a team on the rise with championship potential, and the New Orleans Saints, a losing team in a city still picking up the pieces from Hurricane Katrina. Drew Brees: Here’s Miami. Nick Saban, was a first-year head coach the year before. They went nine and seven. They won their last seven in a row. They were a team on the up and up. And then here's New Orleans, which is a first-year head coach. Nobody knew what to expect out of Sean Payton, a city that had just been completely devastated by Hurricane Katrina, 85 percent of the city underwater. The team had been displaced 3 and 13 record coming back, hobbling back, and these are my choices. So, from an outsider's perspective, you would think that the obvious choice would be the Miami Dolphins, and yet when you get past the surface and dig a little bit deeper, you see the heart and the soul of the city that just needed somebody to believe in them, and here I was just needing somebody to believe in me. SHAWN BROWN: During their visit to New Orleans, Drew and his wife, Brittany, saw the devastation of Hurricane Katrina with their own eyes. Drew Brees: I think that's when Brittany and I both looked at each other and thought, “This is much more than just coming to be a part of a team. This is coming to be a part of something much greater, and that is the rebuilding of a city.” SHAWN BROWN: Drew signed with the Saints in 2006. Four seasons later, he led them to not only their first Super Bowl, but to victory. It wasn't just through football that Drew has become a beacon of hope to New Orleans and the state of Louisiana. Together with his wife, Brittany, he founded the Brees Dream Foundation to advance research in the fight against cancer and to help rebuild what was lost in Hurricane Katrina. Drew has also written a book entitled Coming Back Stronger which chronicles his journey with the underlying message of never giving up and following God's plan. Drew Brees: I live for God, for the faith that I have in Him, and knowing the sacrifices that Jesus Christ made on the cross for me and just feeling like it's in God's hands. All I have to do is just give it my best, commit the rest to Him, and everything else is taking care of. That takes a weight off my shoulders. I think that would take a weight off anybody's shoulders. It’s to give you confidence to know that you’ve got somebody looking out for you. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * PAT ROBERTSON: It’s in God’s hands. He's got it right. It's in God's hands. It takes a weight off your shoulders. What about your future? It's in God's hands. What about your marriage? It's in God's hands. What about your children? They are in God's hands. What about your career? It's in God's hands. If you'll trust him. Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not unto your own understanding. In all your ways acknowledge him, and he will direct your paths. He is God Almighty. He will bless those who trust him. What a great example. We've had two football heroes who are preaching a gospel that perhaps millions of people would not hear anyplace else. What is Tim Tebow, who is now a very big star, and Drew Brees, MVP Super Bowl winner. Maybe coming up for another one. So, anyhow, our hats are off to these guys. We appreciate their stand, and I ask you to pray for them, because the pressures on these people are enormous. If they'll stay humble and grounded in the Word, Terry. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, still ahead, we're going to bring it online from our live chat room, and there's still time to send us your questions. If you'd like to do that, log on to CBN.com right now, and will be back with more of The 700 Club right after this. GRAPHIC: GOT A QUESTION FOR PAT? CHAT NOW ON CBN.COM * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * LEE WEBB: Coming up later . . . . GRAPHIC: CHILD ABUSE Man: I screamed and cried, and I eventually learned to not scream and cry. LEE WEBB: . . . . at seven years old . . . . Man: These were some uniquely evil kids. LEE WEBB: . . . . while walking home in the snow . . . . 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The protesters were arrested Thursday when they refused to move from the entrance of the city's law department. TERRORIST ARREST JOHN JESSUP: A suspected terrorist targeting Tampa, Florida, is behind bars. Authorities have arrested this man, Sami Osmakac. He's described as an Islamic extremist from Yugoslavia. Osmakac is accused of plotting to attack crowded locations near Tampa, including nightclubs, and the Sheriff's office. The US Department of Justice says the suspect recorded an eight-minute video shortly before his arrest. In it, he said he wanted quote, “Payback,” for the wrongs he felt were done to Muslims. You can always get the latest from CBN News by going to our website at CBNNews.com. GRAPHIC: FOR MORE INFO GO TO CBNNEWS.COM Pat and Terry will be back with more of The 700 Club, right after this. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 4B: LIFESTYLE LIFT Announcer: Do you have wrinkles and sagging skin? You’d like to remove years of aging from your face in about an hour? Now you can with lifestyle Lift. This amazing procedure takes about one hour right in our office. See the difference immediately. No general or IV anesthesia. Return to your activities quickly. Call now and get this informational Kit free. Financing available. Lifestyle Lift, America's experts in making you look younger. Woman: It gave me back all of my confidence. Announcer: Call now and get this informational Kit free. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TERRY MEEUWSEN: A child, Robert Brown lived in fear. He was afraid of leaving the house and afraid of his own memories. That's because when Robert was just seven years old, he saw evil itself. ROBERT BROWN DEBBIE WHITE: On a blustery winter day in Massachusetts, seven-year-old Robbie Brown walked home from a long day of sledding with his friends. Just ahead he saw some older boys who were known to be bullies. They dragged Robbie into the woods. Robert Brown: I was ordered out of my snowsuit. I was physically forced to undress. I thought that was about as far as it would go. What happened next was only what you would classify as rape. They did run off when they were done, and I was left there to kind of put myself together and head home. DEBBIE WHITE: Rob staggered home. He couldn't find the words to tell his parents what had happened. All he ever said was that the older boys were mean to him. Robert Brown: It most certainly was a day my life changed. At seven-and-a-half-year-old can't comprehend what that was. These were some uniquely evil kids. DEBBIE WHITE: Rob started carrying a knife for protection. The next time the boys headed his way, he'd be ready. The next week one of the boys approached Rob. He gashed the boy's hand avoiding another attack. But his plan backfired. Robert Brown: Other parents instantly found out about the knife incident, and the police showed up. I was told by my parents that if anything ever happened again, I'd be off to juvenile hall. The kids were all told that. So I had basically cornered myself into checkmate. DEBBIE WHITE: Now Rob was trapped. Do with the older boy said or go to jail. For the next seven years, Rob was raped by the four boys an estimated 20 times. Boy at door: Hey, Robbie . . . . Robert Brown: Control was completely taken away from me. I was literally a prisoner. One of the threats was, “You comply, or we’ll tell your parents what you do for us.” The level of horror after hearing something like that is rather intense. DEBBIE WHITE: He withdrew from family and school friends and was plagued by nightmares and suicidal thoughts. Robert Brown: It was hell visiting Earth. I know I screamed and cried, and I eventually learned to not scream and cry. DEBBIE WHITE: The abuse ended when the boys graduated. For Rob, there was nothing to live for. But he still believed in God. Robert Brown: I would have many conversations. I used to call them like, still call them my mirror conversations, where I would look into the mirror, and I would have long conversations with God. “Feel free to kill me any time now, God. Feel free to take those boys to Hell.” DEBBIE WHITE: Later that summer his older sisters met a street evangelist and became Christians. They invited Rob to spend the summer with them in Cape Cod where they introduced him to the evangelist. Robert Brown: I have seen the worst side of humanity possible. I certainly was never going to be qualified to go to Heaven. So the street evangelist was introducing a whole new concept: ask Jesus to be your Savior and He will, and that my only path to real life, and to a happy life, and eternal life was through Jesus. One morning I asked the Lord to come into my life and my heart, and I said, “I surrender, I give up, I'm yours.” I shed this weighty burden out of my heart. And I fell backwards over that rock, and I just was just bawling my eyes out. That was miraculous, palpable, salvation. DEBBIE WHITE: For the first time since Rob was seven, he says, he felt free. Ron found a church and received help from a counselor. He now runs his own marketing company and is an advocate for child abuse victims. Robert Brown: I'm strong because Jesus gives me strength. God's grace gives me strength. I am nothing without God. DEBBIE WHITE: It’s taken many years for Rob to open up about his past. But he says it helps him heal. Another milestone was forgiving his abusers. Robert Brown: If Jesus will forgive them, who am I to not forgive them? I'm going down the path of healing with the most powerful therapist possible, and that is Jesus. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TERRY MINISTER TERRY MEEUWSEN: Rob talks about going down a path. When you've been very wounded in your life, the way to healing is a journey. But he also talked about the most powerful psychologist, psychiatrist. Jesus is the one who created you. He knows every fiber of your being. This is what the Bible says about God's plan for you and for me. It says that we are created in the image and likeness of God himself. We are a God idea. God has an enemy who hates Him, and because we belong to Him as His creation, he hates us as well. What do you think he delights in doing the most? Breaking that image. Making us feel like we can never be worth anything, like our lives are useless. Making us want to snuff out the very gift of life that God has given us. Putting us in a position where we are checkmated by him, our backs are to the wall, we don't see hope, everything is dark. Rob found a very important thing in the midst of all of that: the gift of forgiveness. You know, it started when he opened his heart up to Jesus after talking with that evangelist. But he said “God, I'm just going to surrender to you.” I can remember that place in my own life where I said there's not much left, but you can have what it is, and do with it what you want it. Take my life, God. Take my life and make it matter. If you're in a situation today where you've been used, abused, deeply wounded, your heart is filled with anger and bitterness, with anxiety, frustration, hopelessness, there's only one place you can go to find wholeness, and that's to the one who created you in His own image and likeness. Here's the amazing thing about Him. He can heal that. He can restore what the enemy has stolen. He can renew. He can re-create. He can do whatever needs to be done to bring you back to wholeness in Him. And then He’ll use your life for something that matters. But most importantly He’ll love you completely, unequivocally. You don't have to get good enough. You can't get clean enough. None of us can. He loves you right where you are. He's got plans and purpose for your life. Are you willing to embark on a journey? Let’s do right now what Rob did. Let's run to the only rock that safety stand on, Jesus Christ. You can have a fresh start right now this moment. Pray with me. Pray with me the same prayer that Rob prayed. Let's pray right now. “God, I don't know how to get to you. I'm trusting today that you are here wanting me just like you wanted Rob. I don't know how to get rid of the things that are inside of me that are eating away at my life, I'm giving it all to you today, the good, the bad, and the ugly. I am a sinner. Things have been done to me, but I acknowledge that I am a sinner in need of a Savior. So first of all, Jesus, I want to do business personally with you. Will you forgive my sins? Would you be the Savior of my soul? And then I'm asking you to be the Lord of my life. Take my life. Take all of it. Heal me, teach me, touch me, use me, changed the way that I think. Help me to know you and to love you with all my heart, and to be able to receive everything you want to be, and give, and do in my life. Oh, Jesus, I just want you. I want to know you. Take me today. I surrender my life to you, in Jesus’ name. I'm also asking you, God, fill me with your Holy Spirit. The only with the power that I need to move forward into your plans for my life. In Jesus’ name I pray, amen.” GRAPHIC: 1-800-759-0700 CBN.COM If you've prayed that prayer with me today and really meant it in your heart, then you've begun an unbelievable relationship with the only One who can make us whole. We want to help you grow in that relationship, so Pat’s put together a project called “A New Day.” This is a little pamphlet filled with information from the Word of God. GRAPHIC: OUR GIFT TO YOU 1-800-759-0700 CBN.COM What do you do now. Now that you've committed your life to Christ, how do you grow in this relationship? This is absolutely free, and so is the phone call to receive it. Our number is 1-800-759-0700. Just call and say, I prayed that prayer today, and I'd like the “New Day” packet. We will get this out to you right away. You can also get it by logging on to CBN.com. Pat. PAT ROBERTSON: Thank you very much. Telephones are available folks. You can call in. Somebody's here who cares about you. Still to come, we're going to be answering your questions from our chat room. Kathy says quote, “My husband is addicted to porn. Soon we will be going on a tropical vacation, but I'm worried he's going to spend his time leering at girls in bikinis. What should I do?” GRAPHIC: GOT A QUESTION FOR PAT? CHAT NOW ON CBN.COM Well, that and more when we come back. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 5A: QUEST FOR GOD SPOT GRAPHIC: WHY DID THE ANCIENT MAYAS BELIEVE THE WORLD WOULD END IN 2012? GRAPHC: THE QUEST FOR GOD THE 700 CLUB AVAILABLE JANUARY 16TH * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * SPOT 5B: PUBLISHER’S CLEARING HOUSE Announcer: You are our newest millionaire. [Recipients expressing excitement] Announcer: Watch your mail for the Publishers Clearing House Sweepstakes or go to pch.com and enter. This February 29th, you could win one million dollars every year for life. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * TERRY MEEUWSEN: Well, lots of you sent questions into our chat room; and, Pat, this first one is from Kathy who says, “My husband is addicted to porn. We've prayed about it, gotten counseling, but his addiction has gotten worse, not better. We've managed to cope with this for years, but I'm getting worried. Soon we will be going on a tropical vacation, and I'm worried that he's going to spend his time leering at other girls in bikinis. What should I do?” PAT ROBERTSON: Better to be leering at real girls in bikinis, than mystical girls in porn. He's got to be delivered. There's an addiction. There's a spirit of lust that has come upon him, and the only way to deal with it is to bind Satan's power and cast that thing out. You need the same kind of thing that you would do if you had somebody who's involved in heroin addiction, and you have an intervention, and people come. You've got to confront him with it, and lay it on the line. You can't continue this, and I might add if you continue in a relationship with somebody like that, you're becoming an enabler. You've got to stand up and say “no more.” All right. TERRY MEEUWSEN: And you need some accountability, too. Just through something like that, unless you want to change . . . . PAT ROBERTSON: There’s got to be intervention were you rebuke Satan. It's a spirit of lust that has come upon that man. He's got to be set free. All right. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Okay, this is Linda, who says, “My brother stole more than a million from my mother and me. My mom had to move in with me. She's not forgiven him, but I have. We're having a hard time making ends meet because of the missing money. My husband told me to forget it and move on, but I want to confront him or confront my brother?” PAT ROBERTSON: Look, it's your call. I don't know what to tell you. It's your own family situation. You say he stole your money. You know, it’d be nice to forgive, but I honestly think that in a thing like that, there are law courts, and I think he should be brought to justice. TERRY MEEUWSEN: She doesn't say how the money was stolen. PAT ROBERTSON: I know. It's very difficult, Terry. That's why you don't know what to counsel, but I just believe in a situation like that, it isn't enough to just forgive and forget. He's not asking for forgiveness. The Bible says if they ask for forgiveness, give it to them. He's not asking for it. I think there needs to be a certain amount of justice. You and your mother have been impoverished because of what this man has done to you. I think he should pay some of the money back. I don't know the circumstances, but in my opinion, it would be one of those things you ought to get a good attorney and see what you can do. TERRY MEEUWSEN: Find out what your rights are. PAT ROBERTSON: Jerking his chain a little bit. All right. TERRY MEEUWSEN: This is Bali who says, “I have been married for a year, and recently my husband has told me that he wants his second wife. He already has a girlfriend and says he wants to marry her. He doesn't see anything wrong with his decision. In my still bound by the marriage vows we said?” PAT ROBERTSON: Not if he's cattin’ around that way. If he really wants a second marriage, let him have her, and you're out. I mean the Bible says adultery is a ground for divorce. TERRY MEEUWSEN: He sounds like he thinks bigamy is alright. It's odd. PAT ROBERTSON: There aren't many people; Muslims think it's okay four wives is cool, and the old Mormons used to think a number of marriages, and they have those sister wives and all that. It is your call, but in my opinion I'd say no way, and according to the Bible. Your husband obviously hasn't grown up yet. He sounds to me like he's terribly immature. TERRY MEEUWSEN: They have only been married for a year. PAT ROBERTSON: It’s weird. You don't have to stay in a thing like that. All right. TERRY MEEUWSEN: This is Amanda who says, “My husband has always been an excessive spender. The Lord has blessed him with promotions, but we still struggle because of his frivolous ways. Every time he gets extra money, he spends it on himself. I even began using coupons to save money. I've tried to talk to him, but he gets mad and walks away. After 10 years of this and three children, I'm fed up. I just don't know what else to do since paying bills isn't a priority to him. Help.” PAT ROBERTSON: My dear, you married him. I keep saying that. You married him. You knew what you were dealing with, and here again it's immaturity, and maybe counseling would work. I don't know what else to say. Sometimes you threaten, “If you don't shape up,” or else you just say look, “I'm going to stop marital relations with you until such time as you begin to show responsibility in relation to finances.” But he will cripple you all for the rest of your lives. You will be financial cripples. And what's going to happen is you'll wind up in old age, and you won't have any money. I mean it's a terrible thing, but yes there are immature people, and that's what we have been talking about is the number of immature, and they need to grow up. Well, that's all the time we've got for today’s show. Tomorrow, meet a pastor who called his congregation “fat.” Then he helped them lose a ton of weight. We'll talk to you tomorrow, see you later. Bye-bye. TERRY MEEUWSEN: I like that. 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