The 700 Club - February 15, 2012
Kim and Krickitt Carpenter share how a car accident that left Krickett in a coma strengthened their marriage. Plus, evangelists John and Carol Arnott update us on their Spread the Fire Ministries.
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LEE WEBB: The real vow that inspired the movie.
Husband: You, you know who I am, right?
Wife: Yeah.
Husband: Okay, ‘cause . . . .
Wife: You’re my doctor.
LEE WEBB: Kim and Cricket Carpenter tell the true story of their second chance at love. Plus, tricked and trafficked. Hundreds of young women sold as brides slaves. See the shocking footage that proves it.
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PAT ROBERTSON: Welcome to this edition of The 700 Club. We’ve been following this story in Egypt to, like, what are these Egyptians doing? Well, I think we’ve got a better look at it. In addition to that, we got a look at the threats to Israel’s existence that is now being laid out by the Muslim Brotherhood. But it’s been one year since a revolution forced Egyptian Pres. Hosni Mubarak out of power. Now Egypt is under the control of a military regime and radical Islamists who are increasingly hostile to the West.
KRISTI WATTS: So, Pat, what happens next in this important Arab nation? Erick Stakelbeck recently talked to a leading Egyptian dissident to get his views on what’s ahead.
EGYPT
ERICK STAKELBECK: The recent arrests of 19 American aid workers has raised fears that the Egyptian revolution has gone horribly wrong. The arrests follow sweeping victories by the Muslim Brotherhood and other Islamists groups in the country’s parliamentary elections. Talk of breaking Egypt’s 31-year peace treaty with Israel grows by the day, and the prospects for democracy look grim.
Majed El-Shafie (One Free World International): The political vacuum is being used by the Muslim extremists, and that’s what we are seeing today; and we warned about this a long time ago. But the Obama Administration did not listen. They were excited; they were happy.
ERICK STAKELBECK: Egyptian native Majed El-Shafie now lives in Canada where he runs a humanitarian organization, One Free World International. He says the Obama Administration has miscalculated the Muslim Brotherhood’s true intentions.
Majed El-Shafie: This administration keeps saying, “We can deal with the Muslim Brotherhood. We can have a dialogue with the Muslim Brotherhood.” The Muslim Brotherhood is the terrorist mother ship for Hamas, for al Qaeda, for many other terrorist groups in the Middle East.
ERICK STAKELBECK: El-Shafie says Brotherhood leaders held a strategy meeting in Cairo just a few days before the recent election victories.
Majed El-Shafie: They didn’t discuss health care, education, economics, finance, any of the important issues to their people. They discussed how they can get rid of Israel, and this is the sad reality.
ERICK STAKELBECK: The so-called “Arab spring,” which has seen radical Islamists rise to power in Egypt and across the region, has left Israel increasingly isolated as talk of impending war with Iran heats up.
Majed El-Shafie: In any conflict between Israel and Iran, the Muslims, even if there is division between them, the Muslim Sunni and the Muslim Shiite, they will agree on one thing. Destroying Israel.
ERICK STAKELBECK: El-Shafie travels widely throughout the Middle East and says Muslim persecution of Christians is increasing at an alarming rate.
Majed El-Shafie: When you ask why do you do this to the Christians, they say well they are the same religion like the West. They’re the same religion like the Americans.
ERICK STAKELBECK: El-Shafie knows persecution firsthand. Raised as a Muslim in Egypt, he converted to Christianity at 18 and established a thriving ministry. He was jailed, beaten, and sentenced to death by Egyptian authorities. Yet he refused to renounce Christ.
Majed El-Shafie: The god of Islam, he sends our children to die for him. But the God of Christianity sent His son to die for us. The message in Christianity of forgiveness, of sacrifice, make me wonder, “Wow, there’s the Lord that we should worship.”
ERICK STAKELBECK (CBN Terrorism Analyst, Reporting): El-Shafie eventually escaped Egypt and made his way to Canada as a political refugee. His organization, One Free World International, is dedicated to helping persecuted Christians around the world. (Interviewing with Pat): Now a lot of people are concerned that Christianity is going to die out in the Middle East, but El-Shafie says he is confident that the faith is going to grow and prosper there, and, Pat, they could use it right now.
PAT & ERICK STAKELBECK, DC
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WHAT’S NEXT IN EGYPT?
PAT ROBERTSON: Erick, let’s talk about that Muslim Brotherhood. I know the American people think, “Oh, Muslim Brotherhood.” It sounds so benign. What are you finding out? Now that we have got this so called “Arab spring” is going all the way across North Africa, and Syria is foment now, and who knows what else might happen. Who are the Muslim Brotherhood people? Who are they targeting next?
ERICK STAKELBECK (CBN Terrorism Analyst): Well, it’s very interesting, Pat, the Muslim Brotherhood, Muslim Brotherhood leaders have said that 2011 was the year of the dictators; 2012, they say, is the year of the kingdom’s. That means the Brotherhood is going to target Jordan and Saudi Arabia, the Royal kingdoms in those two countries. The Brotherhood has a bull’s-eye on their backs. They’ve already toppled Gaddafi. They’ve toppled Saleh in Yemen. They’ve toppled Mubarak in Egypt. They may topple Assad in Syria. They are the secular fascist dictators. Now they have their sights on the infidel, in their view, kingdoms in Saudi Arabia, in Jordan. Pat, it’s like dominoes throughout the Middle East. It started in Tunisia, moved to Egypt, and there’s much more to come. Also, keep an eye on Algeria, another country I see trouble brewing in.
PAT ROBERTSON: Would there be an assassination of Abdullah in Saudi Arabia? Or would the Shiite minority, there, rise up against the ruling House of Saud? How do you see it?
ERICK STAKELBECK: I think the Shiite minority there, Pat, you make a great point, is very restless. Now they are based in the eastern half of Saudi Arabia; and key point, that’s where the oil is. Now the Iranians, right across the Persian Gulf from Saudi Arabia, the Iranians who are Shia have been trying to stir up trouble in the eastern half of Saudi Arabia for some time now. An assassination, who knows? We know that the Iranians were plotting to assassinate a Saudi diplomat right here where I’m sitting in Washington, DC, on US soil. With this Iranian regime, anything is possible. They are no friend to Saudi Arabia. And, Pat, it’s going to be very interesting if and when war breaks out in the Middle East. Going to be interesting to me to see what Iran does vis-à-vis Saudi Arabia. Do they target Saudi Arabia?
PAT ROBERTSON: You feel war is imminent. Is that right?
ERICK STAKELBECK: I believe it is, Pat. I do. I believe war is coming. I believe 2012 seems to me, this seems to be the year of reckoning for Iran’s nuclear weapons program. Perhaps it will be 2013; but, Pat, I’ll tell you, the way things are all shaping up right now, we are spiraling towards the endgame right now with Iran. It’s been 32 years in the making. I believe Israel will act. I believe they’re going to act sooner rather than later. Well, these nations will then, with the Muslim Brotherhood being the fomenter, they will come against Israel. Everybody’s going to come against Israel. Huge numbers of missiles pointed at Israel from Lebanon. Syrian missiles coming in. What do you think about Syria?
ERICK STAKELBECK: That’s right. You know, Pat, you and I have discussed this, and I think it’s very interesting. I look at Scripture right now. Look, Assad is on the ropes in Syria. Clearly, he may be out of power, but the Book of Isaiah, Chapter 17, verse 1 says Damascus, the city of Damascus, the Syrian capital, will become a ruinous heap. Damascus will cease to be a city. Now Isaiah says that. Damascus is the oldest inhabited city in world history. Even the Mongols didn’t raze it to the ground. But the Bible says Damascus will cease to be a city. Very interesting, Pat, in light of everything that’s going on right now in Syria and the surrounding countries.
PAT ROBERTSON: They’ve hosted up to 10 terrorist groups. The worst in the world are there, headquartered in Damascus.
ERICK STAKELBECK: They are, Pat, from Hamas to Hezbollah to Islamic Jihad. Other than Iran, Syria is the biggest purveyor of state terrorism in the world. They have been for decades, and a real key here. If Assad falls in Syria, that hurts Iran, Pat; because it breaks that pipeline. We have weapons going from Tehran to Damascus, into Lebanon, right on Israel’s northern border. So if Assad falls, on one hand, hey, it’s great; it weakens Iran and Hezbollah, but on the other hand, Pat—and here’s the thing in all of these Arab countries, who comes after Assad? Could it be the Muslim Brotherhood in Syria as well? We know they are very strong there right now. No good options there it seems.
PAT ROBERTSON: One billion dollars loaned or given from Iran to Syria to help assure the regime?
ERICK STAKELBECK: That’s right, Pat. One billion dollars from Iranians to their Syrian ally to help Syria evade sanctions. Iran apparently has very deep pockets, Pat; and sanctions are hurting them, yes, but I’m concerned about Egypt as well. We have the US and Egypt. Look, the relationship is gone, Pat. It’s not coming back. Could Iran fill the vacuum there in Egypt? Russia, China, who will fill the vacuum now that the Egyptian-US relationship is going out the window?
PAT ROBERTSON: Thank you, Erick. Ladies and gentlemen, it’s like a vortex. It’s just sucking the nations in. It’s sucking Russia in. It’s sucking China in, sucking America in. This thing is going to explode. It’s just building, building, building, and it’s going to be aimed at Israel; and there’s something I was reading today I wanted to share with you. It’s from the prophet Ezekiel, and it’s the latter part of the 30th chapter of Ezekiel, where it says, “Then they will know that I am the Lord their God, for though I sent them into exile among the nations. I will gather them to their own land, not leaving any behind. I will no longer hide my face from them, for I will pour out my Spirit on the people of Israel, declares the sovereign Lord.” So that says to me there’s going to be a tremendous spiritual awakening in Israel, but it’s going to come in the midst of incredible pressure from the Arab states that surround them and from their allies. It’s going to be a tough call, and as I say, the world is like a vortex. It’s sucking, it’s sucking the nations of the earth to the Middle East, to this, what the Bible calls “the navel of the earth.” Well, Lee Webb has the rest of our top stories from the CBN Newsroom. What do you have?
BUDGET BATTLE
LEE WEBB: Pat, conservatives have wasted little time criticizing President Obama’s new budget. Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner defended the plan from Intel’s Republican attacks. Others called the plan a “recipe for a debt disaster.” Efrem Graham has the story.
EFREM GRAHAM: Republicans wasted no time criticizing the president’s latest budget plan.
Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky): It’s a campaign document.
Sen. Jeff sessions (R-Alabama): It doesn’t reduce the deficit at all.
EFREM GRAHAM: And that is the main criticism. The president is seriously not trying to cut back spending. The White House claims four trillion dollars in deficit savings over the next decade. But Republicans say the real savings will actually be as little as $300 billion. That would be just $30 billion a year. And the president’s plan to almost $3.8 trillion for this year alone. That leaves conservatives warning again that government spending and the massive national debt is out of control.
Sen. John Barrasso (R-Wyoming): Somebody asked me if this budget was dead on arrival, and I said “No, no, it’s not dead on arrival. It’s debt on arrival.” And that’s what we are seeing. This is an ambush budget. The president is ambushing the American people.
EFREM GRAHAM: The president budget includes stimulus-style spending on roads and schools, and higher taxes on upper income Americans.
President Barack Obama: At a time when our economy is growing and creating jobs at a faster clip, we’ve got to do everything in our power to keep this recovery on track.
EFREM GRAHAM: But conservatives argue government spending in the stimulus bill didn’t help the economy when the president tried it before, and they want more realistic cuts in Medicare and Medicaid. The cost of those programs are expected to double in the years ahead. Efrem Graham, CBN News.
LEE WEBB: Republicans also point out, though, that the president has abandoned his promise to cut the deficit in half in his first term. Pat, one can only wonder what Erskine Bowles and Alan Simpson think about all of this. They were commissioned, after all, to take care of this problem, and the president seems to have ignored them.
PAT ROBERTSON: Lee, you’re absolutely right. The Simpson-Bowles initiative was brilliant, because it had some tax increases. It had cuts in entitlements that were needed. It was a very comprehensive plan. Erskine Bowles is brilliant, and Alan Simpson is equally capable. These are tremendous men, and they worked hard; and the president ignored them. They were his commission, and he ignored them. He doesn’t care about the real management of the United States Government. All he wants to do is to get reelected and to impose a so-called “progressive agenda” upon America. He wants to take control of every aspect of this nation by the federal government. And if you want dictatorship, then that’s the way to get it; because he’s giving it to you. But he is so slick, and he promises, and then he doesn’t keep his promise. He promises and he doesn’t his promise. This budget, so-called “spending cuts,” he takes into account things that Republicans have already passed; and he also takes into effect the war is going to be over. So he’s counting that in as his cuts. They’re not cuts. They’ll keep on spending. This budget calls for much more spending and a much larger share of the nation’s wealth being by the federal government. It’s “the road to serfdom” as a brilliant Frederick Heinrich once said. The road to serfdom. Lee.
BLOOMBERG ON CHURCH & SCHOOLS
LEE WEBB: New York’s mayor is defending his city’s ban on worship services in public schools there. Michael Bloomberg says the US Constitution clearly calls for separation of church and state. Sunday was the last day that several dozen churches were allowed to hold worship services in New York public schools. A federal court backed the city’s ban, but now the evicted churches are asking a federal judge for a new injunction that would allow them to continue meeting in schools. The churches argue that they should be allowed the same access, Pat, to those buildings as other groups.
PAT ROBERTSON: Lee, our organization, the American Center for Law and Justice, won a landmark Supreme Court victory, Lance Chapel vs. the Center Moriches School District, landmark. And the ruling was if you have an open forum where you allow anybody to come in and do their thing, then you also have to make accommodation to religious groups. Mayor Bloomberg doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Yes, we have separation of church and state, but there’s nothing in the world that says the city can’t rent a building, an empty building to a church. That has nothing to do with establishing a religion. That’s not an established anything. It’s an accommodation, and the history of America is filled with very willing accommodations by government entities to religious organizations. But that’s the way it goes when you’ve got somebody like Bloomberg, a very, very rich man, I might add, multi-, multi-billionaire. Lee.
UK MINISTER’S WARNING
LEE WEBB: A British Cabinet member has issued a strong warning about the growing secularization of Britain and the rest of Europe. She says they need to embrace their Christian heritage. This Cabinet member is not a Christian; she’s a Muslim. Sayeeda Warsi wrote in the London Daily Telegraph, “That the societies we live in, the cultures we have created, the values we hold and the things we fight for, all stem from centuries of discussion, dissent and belief in Christianity. My fear today is that a militant secularization is taking hold of our societies. At its core and in its in instincts, it is deeply intolerant. It demonstrates similar traits to totalitarian regimes.” She adds that she does not want a theocracy, and that people of different faiths should be able to accept each other and work together. How about that, Pat?
PAT ROBERTSON: I think that’s brilliant. We could have had a hard way of saying it any better than she did; and the fact that she’s a Muslim, she knows. But isn’t that amazing? This is the bedrock of our Western civilization. It founds in Christianity. It founds in the Bible, the truths of the Bible, and the laws that we have, the institutions we have presuppose the existence of a supreme being, and for our society to turn its back on this. In Western Europe, they had a constitution that didn’t even mention God. Didn’t mention God once. It’s terrible. Well, if that isn’t enough, I’ve got another series of horror stories for you, and Kristi is going to tell us about them.
KRISTI WATTS: I sure do, Pat. This story, it’s not only disheartening, it is shocking. Young women are tricked and then trafficked as bride slaves. Up next.
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BRIDE SLAVES
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PAT ROBERTSON: North Korea is a slave state. There’s a book, if you can get your hands on it, called The Aquariums of Pyongyang, detailing the awful persecution a family went through in North Korea. It’s horrible, it is just horrible what that bunch of, they say it’s a criminal enterprise posing as a government. Well, a lot of the women, especially, want to flee the north, because they don’t have enough food to eat. So they run away from that brutal life in their home country, and they want freedom. But what do they find? They can’t speak the language. They go into China. Human smugglers say, “We’ll give you food, money, and a better future,” but instead many of them have ended up as sex slaves in China. Our George Thomas was over on the border of North Korea with this tragic story.
FOCUS: NORTH KOREAN BRIDE SLAVES
GEORGE THOMAS (North-South Korea Border): This is probably the closest I’ll ever get to North Korea. Less than a mile away, you can see on top of that mountain North Korean soldiers watching probably our every move. The statistics show that the overwhelming majority of North Koreans who defect are women. Secondly, the majority of them are being trafficked into China.
Kang Su Jin (Coalition for NK Women’s Rights): They try to escape from their captors, but they get caught. The women are beaten over and over again. Often they get locked up in a room for days.
GEORGE THOMAS: Kang Su Jin has hours of tape to prove it. Since 2006 she has interviewed dozens and dozens of women who escaped from North Korea only to find themselves caught in a bride trafficking web. It all happens here, where northern China meets the border of North Korea.
Kang Su Jin (Coalition for NK Women’s Rights): These women are starving in North Korea, so they escape to China in search of food. Once they get to China, they are in a new place. They don’t know the language, they have no friends, and they don’t know the environment. That’s when the smugglers get a hold of them.
GEORGE THOMAS: Here she is interviewing a 20-year-old North Korean defector.
Female Defector (Speaking Korean): I knew nothing about sexual intercourse. They told me I had to sleep with this guy. I screamed. I didn’t want to.
GEORGE THOMAS: Kang says young female North Koreans have become a commodity for countries like China.
Female Defector: A North Korean broker handed me over to a Chinese broker.
Kang Su Jin (Speaking Korean to defector): So they got paid per head?
Female Defector: Yes, we (the trafficked women) just followed the brokers.
GEORGE THOMAS: China’s centuries-old preference for boys, coupled with millions of aborted female fetuses, has resulted in a huge gender imbalance. For example in one area of Northeast China, the male to female ratio is estimated to be 14 to 1. In other parts of China, there are villages that literally have no women, driving demand for so-called, “North Korean bride slaves.”
Female Defector: She said, “The guy who bought you asked us to pay 8,000 Yuan. But I bought you at 7,000 Yuan (1,400USD). Don’t even think of running away.” I was horrified to find that I was sold.
GEORGE THOMAS: The UN says nearly two-thirds of the thousands of North Korean refugees hiding in China are women; 80 percent of them are trafficked into marriages.
International law says women escaping North Korea are considered refugees, but China regularly deports them. So these women face constant threats of arrest and deportation at the hands of their traffickers.
Female Defector: At the time in May, another investigation of defectors started. Many people were arrested and sent back to North Korea. So we took refuge in the wood in a tent.
GEORGE THOMAS: Kang knows what it’s like to be caught in this web of misery. She’s from Pyongyang, North Korea. In 2002 she made a run for China.
Kang Su Jin: I had a forced marriage in China. I managed to escape from that but got caught by authorities and was sent back to North Korea where I was tortured by prison guards. With the help of some contacts, I escaped the prison camp and made it here to South Korea via Thailand.
GEORGE THOMAS: Six years ago she started the Coalition for North Korean Women’s Rights to help other North Korean survivors of trafficking.
Kang Su Jin: I wanted to help these women who have no voice, no one to speak out on their behalf.
GEORGE THOMAS: And once they defect, life in China or here in Seoul, South Korea, is not easy. In fact many North Korean defectors find it very challenging adjusting to their life in their new settings. So the South Korean government has devoted significant resources to helping defectors make the adjustment by providing them with housing, medical services and education. Meanwhile Kang’s group focuses on building skill sets.
Kang Su Jin: Part of the coalition’s goal is to provide these women with a steady source of income. The women begin in this room doing small sewing projects. Once they’ve mastered the skill, they move to the next room and work on bigger projects. This is our way to help them rebuild their lives.
GEORGE THOMAS: And more defectors are coming. In the last 10 years, 23,000 North Korean refugees reached South Korea. Seven out of ten are women. Meanwhile, North Korea is trying to stop them. Since the death of Kim Jong Il, the North has stepped up patrols along its border with China. Soldiers have orders to shoot anyone trying to sneak into or out of North Korea. George Thomas, CBN News, along the north-south Korean border.
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PAT ROBERTSON: Thanks, George. I believe that if South Korea would warmly welcome refugees from the North and would open its borders fully, there would be an influx of people from the North, and what would happen is it would collapse the North. They wouldn’t have enough people to sustain that faltering economy. We’d love to see something like that happen. But it has to happen. That dictatorship has got to fall. It’s just a question of how soon. Kristi.
KRISTI WATTS: Thank you so much, Pat. Well, coming up, meet the real couple whose love story inspired the movie The Vow.
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THE “REAL” VOW
Kim and Cricket Carpenter reveal the truth behind the Hollywood version when we come back.
LEE WEBB: Got a question for Pat? Send us yours now on CBN.com. We will bring it online with your questions from our live chat room, later on today’s 700 Club.
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KRISTI WATTS: Welcome back to The 700 Club. Well, if you haven’t heard by now the movie The Vow took the number-one spot at the box office last weekend, making over $41 million. The film was inspired by the true story of Kim and Cricket Carpenter. What’s their story? Well check it out. In 1993 the couple had been married less than two months when an accident robbed Cricket of her short-term memory. Take a look.
GUEST SET UP
RENELLE ROBERTS: Boy meets girl. They fall in love and live happily ever after. That’s what Kim and Cricket Carpenter thought, but two months after their wedding, life as they knew it would never be the same. A devastating car wreck left Cricket with massive head injuries and in a coma for weeks. When she woke up, Cricket had no idea who Kim was.
MOVIE CLIP:
Kim Carpenter: You, you know who I am, right?
Cricket Carpenter: Yeah.
Kim Carpenter: Okay, cause . . . .
Cricket Carpenter: You’re my doctor.
RENELLE ROBERTS: Their story of commitment inspired a Hollywood movie, but in their book, The Vow, Kim and Cricket tell the true story about their second chance at love.
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KIM & KRICKETT CARPENTER
KRISTI WATTS: Please welcome to The 700 Club, Kim and Cricket Carpenter. Yay!
Cricket Carpenter: Thank you.
KRISTI WATTS: So, like many people around the states, we’ve watched the movie. I read the book. Loved the book. I was all into the book. I mean, where do we even start? I couldn’t even imagine that 20 years ago, you guys had only been, dated, fell in love, married barely two months, and literally the worst thing that could possibly happen in a marriage, happened. Let’s talk about the emotional element of it. I want to go with you Kim. Let’s start right off. The day that this happened, Cricket is kind of in a coma. She comes out of it. She looks at you. She has no clue that you’re her husband. What does that feel like?
Kim Carpenter (Author, The Vow): Well, obviously it was just devastating. I felt the same way I felt when I didn’t know if she was alive during the car accident. It’s just a sickening feeling. You have the fear of the unknown. You’re in total shock, and it was a time of our life where, going into it, we felt bulletproof, on top of the world, honeymooning, and it was just a great time of our life; but it was horrible, just horrendous.
KRISTI WATTS: Krickett, take us to your realm where all of the sudden, physically you’re all bruised up. You were more bruised that people even understand.
Krickett Carpenter: Right.
KRISTI WATTS: You were literally at death’s door. Let’s talk about that before we talk about the mental aspect of it.
Krickett Carpenter (Author, The Vow): Right, initially I was very swollen, and I was in a deep coma for three weeks, and then it was about four months after the car accident is when I finally accepted that this dream I felt like I was living in was actually reality, that I had been in a car accident and I was married to a man named Kim.
KRISTI WATTS: I thought about this all last night, I really did. I thought, you know what Kim, the book and the movie is kind of in your voice.
Kim Carpenter: It is.
KRISTI WATTS: But, Krickett, what did it feel like when you’re looking at this man and you’re like, “I’m supposed to love him. I’m supposed to know him. I have memories with him. I don’t know who he is?”
Krickett Carpenter: It was really confusing. I accepted that I was married to him, but I didn’t have any feelings for him or any emotions or any connections. Even when I look at our wedding video or our pictures, the girl in the picture looks exactly like me, and my parents told me I was married to him, so it must be true, but I didn’t understand it. And it wasn’t the second time around that I, like, fluffy fell in love with him again. It was a choice, and I chose to love Kim based on obedience to God, not on feelings that I had; because any feelings or memory that I had had been wiped out. So, I chose to love him. I mean, I made a vow, in good times and bad, sickness and health. You don’t think the bad and sickness are going to happen, but they can; and the Lord expected me to stay in our marriage.
KRISTI WATTS: Let’s talk about your faith in the Lord. This is what I thought was so cool. In the book, you were saying how both of you were Christians before you got married. You were married. God was an integral part of your life. Now, Krickett, you lost a lot of your short-term memory. You had some long-term; but, Kim, part of your challenge was you thought, “The woman who I loved has such a great faith for God,” did she lose that part of her memory, as well, and what was it, your brother-in-law or someone told you no, because her faith was part of her soul.
Kim Carpenter: Yeah.
KRISTIE WATTS: Talk about that.
Kim Carpenter: Well, there was concern when there was memory loss, what’s going to be different? Obviously, we were seeing some differences with Krickett’s disposition, and so we were concerned a little bit; but I think it was very comforting to know that God put in her brother, Jamie’s, words that it’s imbedded in her soul. We definitely started seeing some things happen to where she had a desire to start journaling, and we spent a lot of time surrounding her with music and things that really were reaffirming to her, I’m sure. I know they were to all of us around her; and so as the healing process went on, we were very pleased with where her walk with the Lord was as she started to recover.
KRISTIE WATTS: Yeah. I want to delve into that a little bit more, but before I do I think we’ve got some Facebook questions. We’ve opened it up to our Facebook fans. Colleen, she says she wants to know how realistic the movie is compared to real life.
Kim Carpenter: Well, it’s tough to tell a 19-year-old story in 104 minutes. There are several things that are dead on, but there ‘s a lot of things that are definitely different. Overall, we’re very happy with the way the movie was made and told, and the context of this story is there. One of the biggest things for us is that we’re very blessed because of the fact that we have two sets of parents that combined have celebrated over 100 anniversaries, and that in itself is a strong foundation; and you accompany that with our faith, and that’s what really drew us through the movie. Part of it is that we’re very grounded in terms of where we come from, and our parents are just a beautiful part to this entire story.
KRISTI WATTS: Let’s be real. Let’s talk about our relationship with the Lord. Marriage is hard already. Come on, let’s be real. Fifty percent of marriages end in divorce.
Kim Carpenter: Right.
Krickett Carpenter: Mm-hm.
KRISTI WATTS: Now you have a situation where, not only does she not recognize you, but because of the brain injury, your behavior and personality drastically changed. One moment you’re cussing him out, probably wanting to hit him down; and you’re arguing back and forth, I mean, it was like ba-boom, boom, boom, right?
Krickett Carpenter: Right.
Kim Carpenter: Yeah.
KRISTI WATTS: So, how did God help you say, “I want to leave this marriage, but I’m going to stay,” and how did God not help you say, “I just give up”?
Kim Carpenter: Well, for me, the Lord really put a series of wonderful points in our relationship. I had conceded to the fact that she didn’t know who I was. I pushed her very hard in rehab. Of course, I was a baseball coach, and she worked for a sports barrel company on how we met, but I pushed her. Here’s a former two-time academic all-American gymnast doing very little on physical therapy; so I pushed her, and it took a toll on our relationship. She’d tell me she hates me, “I don’t know you. You go back to where you came from.” Then, when her parents and I sat down and talked about the fact that I needed to get on with my life. She was going to out-patient therapy; they’ll live with her, and I would travel back and forth each week to be with her as much as I possibly could and then take my ball team and go on the road and play our games over a series of weekend and then get back on a red-eye and go back to Phoenix. That went on for 10 weeks, but the real painful part of that was getting to the airport and arriving was just so hurtful, because there was no feeling in our reunion; and on departure she could have cared less if I would come back, and those things hurt. But, the Lord put a little bit of hint in our relationship. I had told my brother that, “You know what? I’m going to stay with her until she’s capable enough to live a quality of life, and competent enough to look me in the face and tell me that it’s over.” I had pretty much conceded to that. But one day I didn’t call. I used to call every night when I was away from her, and it was like talking to somebody you’re just meeting for the first time every time we spoke; but on this particular day I was setting up for a home game stand that I got home later that night, and the phone rang; and at one of my lowest points her mom said, “Hey, there’s somebody here that wants to talk to you,” and I lost my breath. It was hitting freezing temperatures, you know, just [gasp]. She got on the phone and she said, “Hi. I gotta go now. Bye.” But that little tint of hope really gave me a lot more strength to continue on; and when she returned home, we obviously had some real struggles, but along the way the Lord just put little placements here and there that gave us a lot of hope.
KRISTI WATTS: I love that, and you know what? That really is who Jesus Christ is to each of us. He’s a God of hope. He’s a Got of restoration. All right, really quickly, what’s your marriage like today? It’s a loaded question, right?
Kim Carpenter: We can’t stand each other. No, we’re blessed. We have two beautiful children.
KRISTI WATTS: And we’d love to see them.
Kim Carpenter: They’re real blessings of our vows, and it’s just been a great experience to have them in our life. Krickett calls them “the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.” We’re embedded in sports and youth activities, and so it’s just a wonderful time our life.
KRISTI WATTS: Very last question, because I have to say this. The movie and the book and your life is called The Vow. What does “vow, commitment” mean to you?
Krickett Carpenter: I mean, it’s huge and, for me, I made a vow before God in good times and bad, sickness and health and, of course, you don’t think the bad and the sickness are going to happen, but you make a promise to each other and a promise before your God. The Lord expected us to stay in our marriage, and we were going to be people of our word and do what we said we would do when we got married on September 18, 1993.
Kim Carpenter: We live in a world where, 50 years ago, “till death do us part” really meant the definition of the death of a soul mate. Today, it’s the death of a marriage, and it’s sad because society has accepted that and basically ended up with the expression, “Oh, they gave it a shot,” and move onto the next one. But it so impacted our family foundations, and that very foundation has created such instability, because it leads to greater need for law enforcement, greater need for addiction and rehabilitation issues. So, it has such a huge impact on our society, and that’s our hope in the movie and the book that, if we can just inspire one marriage to move forward and work it out, or a couple that’s preparing to be married to be better prepared, or even somebody that will do the right thing, that’s what it’s about.
KRISTI WATTS: I love that. Thank you both so much for being here.
Kim Carpenter: Thank you for having us.
Krickett Carpenter: Thank you.
KRISTI WATTS: Thank you for sharing your story and blessings. A million more years to you.
Kim Carpenter: Thank you.
KRISTI WATTS: All right, well, if you’d like to hear more from the Carpenters, you can. You know what you have to do? It’s easy. Log on to CBN.com, because we have an inclusive web-only interview with them in the Green Room, and I’ve got to tell you this, too. You’ve got to get their book. It’s The Vow. It is the true story of the Carpenters, and it’s a faith builder. Well, it’s available wherever books are sold. You’re going to want to get your copy. All right, what am I doing now? Am I doing the chat room? Okay, let me keep reading. Still ahead, you’re questions from our chat room. I love how perfect I am. Richard says, “What’s up with the sudden rise in the price of gas and oil?” Richard, I want to know, too; and we’re nowhere near the beginning of the summer driving season, but the prices are high. So, we’re going to bring it on with Richard’s questions. I’m going to jump and add mine in there, too, when we come back. So, don’t go away.
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NEWSBREAK
LEE WEBB: Welcome back to The 700 Club.
ISRAEL VS IRAN
Israeli officials say Iran is behind recent attacks on Israelis in India and the Republic of Georgia. They say a suspected Iranian bomb factory in Bangkok, Thailand, is connected to the attacks. An explosion blew the roof off of this rented home in Bangkok on Tuesday. Obviously, we have the wrong video there, but that led police to three Iranian men. One of them tried to throw a grenade at the officers. He blew off his own legs instead. Israeli officials say so-called “sticky bombs” found in that house are similar to those used in the attacks.
CATHOLIC CONTROVERSY
The country’s top Catholic Bishop is promising to fight the White House’s decision on birth control coverage. Cardinal Designate Timothy Dolan says choking mandates remain, even after the president’s compromise on the issue. The White House now exempts religious institutions from directly paying for contraception for their workers. It wants insurance companies, instead, to pick up the tab; but Dolan calls that nothing more than “a hill of beans.” You can always get the latest from CBN News by going to our website at CBNNEWS.com.
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Pat and Kristi will be back with more of The 700 Club after this.
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KRISTI WATTS: We’re still talking about the Carpenters. I so love them. Okay, so we’re approaching a milestone on our Facebook page. We’re just a few “likes” away from hitting 100,000 fans. So, to mark this event we’re going to pick three winners to receive a gift bag of items from our Shop CBN. So, all you have to do to enter is by becoming one of our fans. Just go to our facebook.com/700Club. Hey, Pat, did you ever have one of those questions where, like, you’re brain is a little bit behind your mouth? That has been me all day long. I don’t know what my problem is.
PAT ROBERTSON: Did you sleep?
KRISTI WATTS: I slept, but you know? No, I slept. I went to the movies and had Milk Duds, maybe too much sugar.
PAT ROBERTSON: You had Milk Duds at the movie? That did it! Filled with guilt, that’s why you didn’t sleep.
KRISTI WATTS: Maybe that’s it!
PAT ROBERTSON: All right, questions.
BRING IT ON
KRISTI WATTS: All right, here we go. Richard says, “What’s up with the sudden rise in the price of gas when oil has not spiked, and we’re nowhere near beginning of the summer driving season?” What’s up with that?
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, a couple of things happened. The refineries shift the blend, and they have to shut down and retool for summer blend, so that causes a momentary spike; but I think everybody’s looking at the trouble in Iran. They think the Straits of Hormuz will close, that there might be some bombing of the Saudi facilities. If that’s the case, crude would go to $200 to $300 a barrel, and oil would go up. I think they’re anticipating that, but remember the refineries are doing the changeover, and they shut down and retool for the summer blend. All right.
KRISTI WATTS: Okay. All right, next question. Stephan asked, “Can you receive a personal healing during prayer watching a rerun or pre-recorded broadcast of The 700 Club?
PAT ROBERTSON: It has happened many times.
KRISTI WATTS: Hasn’t it, though?
PAT ROBERTSON: Yeah, we just can’t believe it. The anointing of the Lord, we don’t’ understand. It’s something that from all eternity, and God dwells in eternity, and we live in this second, that second; but God, He oversees it all, the end from the beginning, so okay.
KRISTI WATTS: Faith comes by hearing, so however you hear, that faith is going to shoot up healing. All right, John writes, “The Bible instructs us that personal faith is a condition of healing. So how can unbelievers be healed by Jesus when someone prays for them?” That’s interesting.
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, again, who knows what happens in somebody’s mind, but faith comes by hearing and hearing by the Word of God. So, when the Word of God goes out, faith can rise in a moment of time. All right.
KRISTI WATTS: Okay, next question. Donna writes, “Pat, you’ve said that destruction of our nation could come from internal things like the economy. How can Christians protect their families from internal economic harm?”
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, the biggest thing that’s going to kill us is debt, and I think if you have excessive debt, it can destroy you. It can take your house and your livelihood in an instant. So, you ought to stay out of debt; and then, I think, hard assets. I’m a fan of gold and silver, but neither their gold or their silver will deliver the day of God’s wrath. When God’s wrath hits a country, what are you going to do? It’s just one of those things. You need to trust the Lord, and the Lord will take you through, like Elijah was fed by ravens. He was out in the desert, and God said, okay, to these ravens, you go get some food and bring it to him. We’re going to have to trust God. We’re going to have to be in a situation where you’re walking with the Lord.
KRISTI WATTS: Speaking of trusting in God, that goes right to our next question. Seth asks, “Does the current situation in the Middle East, such as the Iranian nuclear program, indicate that the end of the world is drawing near? And should America go to war with Iran?”
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, America doesn’t need to go to war with Iran. What we’d like to see them do is to go for a regime change and to undermine that bunch of mullahs that’s running the country, that theocracy. But, is The End coming? There are so many things in scripture that are taking place now, just unfolding one thing after the other. The nations are coming against Israel. Israel is in a vice over there looking for the Lord, but I think Ezekiel 38 is coming to pass very quickly. All right.
KRISTI ROBERTSON: We’re rocking through these questions. Ready for the next one?
PAT ROBERTSON: Yeah, let’s go.
KRISTI ROBERTSON: All right, Deb says, “Which prayer is truly the prayer that God hears, biblically speaking, silent prayer, speaking in tongues or out loud?”
PAT ROBERTSON: God is a spirit and they that worship Him must worship in spirit and in truth. It is when your spirit and your heart go out and touch God. It doesn’t matter your posture, nor it matters how it’s vocalized. It’s what’s in your heart that touches God, and when it does, miracles.
KRISTI WATTS: Come on. Speaking of miracles and touching God, that’s leading us right to our next guest, right? Up next, laughing, weeping, even falling down, they’re all a part of what is known as the “Toronto Blessing.”
John Arnott: The glory of God fell on us, and people came to the front for prayer and Heaven opened.
KRISTIE WATTS: The founders of Catch the Fire Ministries join us live when we come back.
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PAT ROBERTSON: Well, 19 years ago, John and Carol Arnott were pastors of a small church in Toronto, Canada. Today that church has spawned a whole network of churches and a training college with international campuses. Take a look.
SET-UP PIECE
REPORTER: John and Carol Arnott are the founding pastors and presidents of Catch the Fire, formerly known as Toronto Airport Christian Fellowship. Their church gained world-wide attention after an outpouring of the Holy Spirit known as the “Toronto Blessing.”
John Arnott: The glory of God fell on us, and people came to the front for prayer and Heaven opened.
REPORTER: Now, John and Carol are highly sought-after international speakers, and their ministry has a growing family of churches spread across the globe.
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GUEST: JOHN & CAROL ARNOTT
PAT ROBERTSON: Would you please welcome back to The 700 Club a couple of very dear friends from the Toronto Blessing, John and Carol Arnott. God bless you both. Glad to see you.
Carol Arnott: Thank you, Pat.
John Arnott: Yeah.
Carol Arnott: It’s great to be back.
PAT ROBERTSON: Comment on the wings or miracles. Tell us the latest. What is God doing?
Carol Arnott (Founding Pastor, Catch the Fire, Toronto): He is doing so much all over the world, Pat. It’s unbelievable.
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, be specific. What are you talking about?
Carol Arnott: Well, John just came back from India . . . .
John Arnott: Yeah.
Carol Arnott: . . . . and had an amazing time. We did two schools.
PAT ROBERTSON: What happened in India?
John Arnott (Founding Pastor, Catch the Fire, Toronto): Well, we did meetings in the south of India where Paul Dhinakaran has a university down there, and he’s a good friend of yours. I think, actually, Gordon had something to do with us getting in there, I’m not sure; but we had a great time with all those young people, just the power of God. Then we went to the north of India and did one of our leadership schools with about a thousand pastors from a church planting movement there, and it was amazing. So, I couldn’t get over the stories. Ministering to the persecuted church is a whole lot different than ministering to the people that we’re used to ministering to who are really not the persecuted church in any kind of a heavy sense. But, we were able to do that both in Turkey and then India last year.
PAT ROBERTSON: What did you find? What were they telling you?
John Arnott: Well, just the stories. We had people that were from Iran and from other countries in the Middle East, and they just had horrible stories of torture and imprisonment and the faithfulness of God; but their conversions were the amazing thing, where Jesus would appear to them and say, “I am the Way, follow Me,” and things like that. We met one couple who’d been imprisoned for, I think they were in prison, seven months.
Carol Arnott: Right.
John Arnott: And under threat, I mean, horrible threat.
Carol Arnott: Horrible.
John Arnott: But they got out miraculously, and just story after story like that.
PAT ROBERTSON: It humbles us, doesn’t it, to see their faces.
Carol Arnott: To see them when they work through forgiveness. We’re talking about forgiveness and judgments, and then they’re weeping their way through that; and then when the worship comes they are worshipping the Lord. I think, “Oh, my gosh! Look at them. They’re dancing. They’re faces are absolutely radiant. They’re eyes are sparkling, and there’s just something so precious about them that we just left our hearts with the persecuted church.
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, that’s Heaven. When get there, there’s going to be a multitude that no man can number from every people all over the earth, and they’re going to be there.
Carol Arnott: I know. It’s great!
John Arnott: So, that was November, December. Then, in January we were in Columbia and then India. We had a fantastic time. Carol was with me there, of course.
Carol Arnott: In Honduras.
John Arnott: Where did I say?
Carol Arnott: India.
John Arnott: Oh, yeah. Columbia and Honduras.
PAT ROBERTSON: Honduras.
John Arnott: And it was amazing, too. We just met with a missionary down there who is a radical, incredible guy. He’s got connections with the high government officials all the way down to the poorest of the poor, and we just had a super time with him.
PAT ROBERTSON: The Bible says I’m going to pour out my Spirit upon all flesh. We’re seeing that. We’re living in that now.
Carol Arnott: We are.
PAT ROBERTSON: We really are. It’s being fulfilled in our lives.
Carol Arnott: Yeah.
John Arnott: Yeah.
Carol Arnott: It is.
PAT ROBERTSON: Your sons and daughters will prophesy. You’re old men will dream dreams, and all my servants and handmaidens I’ll pour out my Spirit, and they’ll prophesy. You’re seeing that.
John Arnott: I am.
Carol Arnott: It’s so exciting, too.
PAT ROBERTSON: You’ve got this conference coming up in our Founders Inn here in Virginia Beach, and how many, a thousand or so people are going to come to worship God.
John Arnott: Yes, they are.
Carol Arnott: Yeah, it’s just exciting. You’re going to be speaking, Pat.
PAT ROBERTSON: I will. I appreciate your prayers.
Carol Arnott: This is really exciting and Gordon.
PAT ROBERTSON: Gordon will be there and will be a blessing. He’s a blessing.
Carol Arnott: Bill and Beni Johnson from Redding are going to be there.
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PAT ROBERTSON: Yeah.
Carol Arnott: So, we’re going to have a great time.
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, the anointing of the Lord, though. Well, now you guys are still doing Toronto, or you left that to somebody else, and you’re out on the field?
Carol Arnott: We’re out in the field, but we’re sort of the founding pastors. We’re the grandma and grandpa now, but still involved.
PAT ROBERTSON: Sure, okay. I know how that feels. I know how that feels.
John Arnott: Yeah.
Carol Arnott: Yeah.
John Arnott: The heavy lifting is done by other people up there now.
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, the same anointing, though. It doesn’t diminish.
John Arnott: No, in fact, we think it’s increasing again. It does ebb and flow, and it’s really coming back again now. It’s wonderful.
PAT ROBERTSON: It’s kind of a weird name, Toronto Airport Fellowship. Do you still got that name, or did you change it to something more?
John Arnott: We changed it to Catch the Fire.
PAT ROBERTSON: Catch the Fire, that’s the name of the church.
John Arnott: Yes, that’s right.
PAT ROBERTSON: I like that better than Airport Fellowship. You say, “I’m in between planes.”
John Arnott: There you go.
Carol Arnott: At first we were at the end of the runway.
PAT ROBERTSON: Getting ready to take off.
John Arnott: Yeah.
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, I just thank God for the ministry He’s given you guys, and we pray for you; and I ask people to pray for the Arnotts, God’s special people.
Carol Arnott: Pat, I just wanted again, I think I talked about it last year, but I’m still doing—oh, there it goes again, my 10-minute worship. Oh, Lord, I worship You and I love You. Ah! But I have a timer.
PAT ROBERTSON: Yeah?
Carol Arnott: It actually goes off every 10 minutes. I learned it from a derma doctor, and it’s phenomenal. It focuses your eyes on Jesus.
PAT ROBERTSON: Every 10 minutes you worship God?
Carol Arnott: Every 10 minutes.
PAT ROBERTSON: It’s a little timer?
Carol Arnott: It’s a little timer that I’ve got on my . . . .
John Arnott: Show him right there. You have one in your hand.
Carol Arnott: I’ve got one in my hand, but I’ve got one on my belt.
PAT ROBERTSON: Well, speaking of timer, it’s over; but anyhow, every 10 minutes
Carol Arnott: Worship Him.
PAT ROBERTSON: Worship the Lord. We’ll see you. God bless you.
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ANNOUNCER: Just like you did for Luis who lived with his family in a house he built from plastic and sticks. When his wife became gravely ill, you brought the doctor and medicine needed to heal her. You built Luis’s family a new home and provided the tools he needed to earn a better living. You took this family from despair to happiness.
TERRY MEEUWSEN: So please watch for this mailing and send in your pledge.
KRISTI WATTS: This year millions will experience the love and saving power of Jesus Christ.
TERRY MEEUWSEN: Only because you were there.
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